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Soft Muscle Tissue Found in Fossil Salamander (evos claim it is 18 million years old!)
CEH ^ | November 6, 2009

Posted on 11/09/2009 9:44:55 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts

So, GGG - I’m curious - how long ago do you think dinosaurs roamed the earth (i.e., t-rex, etc..)?


21 posted on 11/09/2009 10:17:54 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: SunkenCiv
This thread is deteriorating, but the idea of Jurrasic Salamander is kinda interesting.
22 posted on 11/09/2009 10:19:11 AM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: rae4palin

if i gave a rip, i’d use it- but i don’t


23 posted on 11/09/2009 10:20:10 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: shibumi; Salamander
shibumi: I wouldn't want to be you right now (for obvious reasons)


24 posted on 11/09/2009 10:20:40 AM PST by Semper Mark ("Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples liberty's teeth.")
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

I know the terminology they use can be confusing, but make no mistake, they are finding dino soft tissue, to enclude proteins, connective tissue, blood vessels and even blood cells:

Dinosaur soft tissue and protein—even more confirmation!

Mary Schweitzer announces even stronger evidence, this time from a duckbilled dino fossil, of even more proteins—and the same amazingly preserved vessel and cell structures as before.

http://creation.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue-and-protein-even-more-confirmation


25 posted on 11/09/2009 10:25:22 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: scottdeus12

Dinos existed at least up to the time of (and a tiny number just after) the flood of Noah, which is why we are finding so many dinos with soft tissue still intact.


26 posted on 11/09/2009 10:29:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Yeeha!!! Saddle up and ride that T-Rex!


27 posted on 11/09/2009 10:41:21 AM PST by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

More FOSSILIZED “soft tissue structures” being passed off as “soft muscle tissue” , I see.

Move along folks, this is not the “soft tissue” you are being told it is....this is FOSSILIZED soft tissue STRUCTURE, nothing more.

....bet they don’t even know WTH “soft tissue” is....and it has nothing to do with being “soft.”


28 posted on 11/09/2009 10:42:39 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: Clioman

CLEARLY, the dinosaur crossed the road to eat the vegetables on the other side. Wait, did they even have roads pre-Fall?


29 posted on 11/09/2009 10:44:44 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So why do you assume soft tissue could last 6,000 years, but not 18,000,000 years?

Once the specimen is sealed and the decay process stops, the length of time becomes irrelevant.


30 posted on 11/09/2009 10:46:56 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: scottdeus12

Easy one....dinosaurs lived with Man until 4,351 years ago...when the Flood killed them all.


31 posted on 11/09/2009 10:48:22 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m heading over to read this link 3G, but here’s something I found on the dino “Dakota.”

“They believe the hippo-sized Dakota fell into a watery grave, with little oxygen present to speed along the decay process. Meanwhile, very fine sediments reacted with the soft tissues of the animal, forming a kind of cement.”


32 posted on 11/09/2009 10:48:53 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GodGunsGuts

So have there ever been man and dino bones found in the same strata of earth?

I’m not poking fun by the way - just asking.


33 posted on 11/09/2009 10:57:24 AM PST by scottdeus12 (Jesus is real, whether you believe in Him or not.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“the terminology they use can be confusing”

That’s for sure! One of the articles I read about “Dakota” referred to it as a “mummy” in one paragraph. If you just read that one sentence, you’d think one thing. But, in the following paragraph, it became clear the “mummification” was actually the fossilization of the whole body. Bones, soft tissue, and even the skin! They used a giant CT scanner to “cut” through the different layers of the fossilized “mummy.”


34 posted on 11/09/2009 11:08:54 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
"Do these look like rock to you?"

What they look like has no relevance. Can you provide an elemental analysis? The fossilization is a substitutional process in which the organic portion of the tissue is replaced in three steps; carbonization, premineralization, and petrification. The resulting fossil is stone that can look exactly like the original material.

35 posted on 11/09/2009 11:23:05 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: GodGunsGuts

“...a salamander said to be 18 million years old.”

The Medicare costs alone.....


36 posted on 11/09/2009 11:34:31 AM PST by elephantlips
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To: Natural Law

I know it’s difficult for evos to swallow, but they are indeed finding dino soft tissue, and they are finding it on a fairly regular basis now:

Oldest Dinosaur Protein Found — Blood Vessels, More

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090501-oldest-dinosaur-proteins.html


37 posted on 11/09/2009 11:40:18 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
"I know it’s difficult for evos to swallow, but they are indeed finding dino soft tissue, and they are finding it on a fairly regular basis now:"

I know it's difficult for YEC's to swallow but National Geographic can be read by non-YEC's too. The following link is to an article in a subsequent issue of the National Geographic that casts doubt on many of the soft tissue finds.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/07/080730-dinosaur-tissue.html

Additionally, if the fossilization process can be interrupted such that carbonization is not permitted to happen (maintaining an anaerobic state and no exposure to heat above 100C) soft tissue elements such as proteins can be maintained as well as the fruit in your momma's canned preserves.

38 posted on 11/09/2009 11:52:31 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law
My link is subsequent to yours, not the other way around. Your link is dated July 2008, my link is dated May 2009. As such, the scientific controversy over dino soft tissue has been resolved in favor of dino soft tissue preservation.
39 posted on 11/09/2009 12:06:53 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
"As such, the scientific controversy over dino soft tissue has been resolved in favor of dino soft tissue preservation."

As usual your science is a wrong as your theological interpretations. No controversy has been resolved because one does not exist. You have not proved your young age assertion for the specimens you posted as satisfying neither of the conditions I stated. Without elemental analysis you haven't established that it is even organic or if it is organic the conditions of its anaerobic preservation.

40 posted on 11/09/2009 12:20:33 PM PST by Natural Law
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