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Ford Learns The Price Of Solvency (UAW going back to business usual)
Ford ^ | 11/07/09 | Logan Robinson

Posted on 11/09/2009 3:20:13 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Ford Learns The Price Of Solvency

Logan Robinson, 11.07.09, 12:00 PM EST

But what has the UAW learned?

In plant-by-plant voting over the last few weeks a large majority of the 41,000 United Auto Workers (UAW) workers employed by the Ford Motor Company voted to reject modifications to their collective bargaining agreement negotiated by their own national union.

The modifications were designed to bring the Ford-UAW agreement into parity with concessions the UAW gave to GM and Chrysler as part of their government-brokered bankruptcies. They included a wage freeze for entry-level workers until the 2015 contract, a commitment to binding arbitration with no strikes until 2015, and other concessions.

In return Ford promised to keep work in various UAW plants in the U.S., and to pay a $1,000-per-worker bonus. This rejection also ends for now the UAW’s long-standing commitment to "pattern" bargaining, meaning that the Detroit 3 all get the same labor agreement. Not since Chrysler's near bankruptcy and federal loan guarantees in the late 1970s has this pattern been broken.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automakers; ford; fordmotor; uaw; unions
Yes, with their pal in WH, why do they have to fear anything?
1 posted on 11/09/2009 3:20:14 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...
UAW showing Goldman Sachs Syndrome: running wild, knowing that gov has their back covered.
2 posted on 11/09/2009 3:22:08 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Move plants to Mexico.
3 posted on 11/09/2009 3:24:31 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: org.whodat

How about right to work states getting a shot first?


4 posted on 11/09/2009 3:26:09 PM PST by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Move South we know how to deal with scum down here.


5 posted on 11/09/2009 3:26:27 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“while the shareholders of GM and Chrysler were wiped out, and the GM bondholders got only a 10% equity stake in the new GM for the $27 billion they lent the old GM, there has been no reduction in the generous base pay, health care or pensions of active UAW workers.”

Ford is being torpedoed by the unions so they, too can become Govermint MotUrs.


6 posted on 11/09/2009 3:28:51 PM PST by jessduntno (TOTUS fails and POtuS becomes a phuttering stuck.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why should the UAW agree to anything Ford proposes? The UAW now owns GM and Chrysler so Ford is a competitor, better to bring it down and get equity than let it compete profitably.


7 posted on 11/09/2009 3:29:10 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: listenhillary

Do what Boeing did and move production to SC or another hard core right to work state.

Boeing has unionized workers but I bet in SC they will not be unionized Boeing workers.

If not them move it to Mexico.


8 posted on 11/09/2009 3:30:06 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oh - what the heck - In my area of Michigan - I passed by a small group of strikers - go figure - we have 20+% unemployment - and these idiots are on strike??????


9 posted on 11/09/2009 3:31:03 PM PST by Core_Conservative (No longer a Republican - A Proud Constitutional Conservative)
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To: jessduntno

The UAW will take over Ford just like they took over Chrysler and GM. At that point I will buy a Toyota, Honda or BMW.


10 posted on 11/09/2009 3:32:27 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: JrsyJack
Why should the UAW agree to anything Ford proposes? The UAW now owns GM and Chrysler so Ford is a competitor, better to bring it down and get equity than let it compete profitably.

I wonder if there are any antitrust laws that apply here?

11 posted on 11/09/2009 3:34:22 PM PST by oldbrowser (The audacity of incompetence)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Don Obamao’s goons are letting Ford know who the boss is.


12 posted on 11/09/2009 3:34:26 PM PST by pallis
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To: pallis
If you checked the reply section at the end of this article at Forbes site, you will see that they make it painfully clear.
13 posted on 11/09/2009 3:40:17 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: org.whodat
I'm with you. I've had enough of the UAW, and I'll gladly and without feeling any guilt buy a Mexican built Ford.
14 posted on 11/09/2009 3:40:57 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Hey Nancy, how many jobs have been lost since you and the Democrats took Congress?)
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To: oldbrowser

I wonder if there are any antitrust laws that apply here? ... Your’e damned right there are. Made by Obummer when he handed 42% of the other companies ownership over to the thugs.


15 posted on 11/09/2009 3:41:43 PM PST by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Fire all the uaw sobs. Give me a call I’ll cross the picket line and work and I’ll bet I am not alone.


16 posted on 11/09/2009 3:42:39 PM PST by JoSixChip (Time to start organizing, that's if we are ever going to.)
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To: JoSixChip

I’ll join you.

Fire them all.


17 posted on 11/09/2009 3:54:09 PM PST by eCSMaster
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To: oldbrowser

Very likely, but Congress has 0% chance of investigating. There’s also the possibility that in one of the myriad pork bills passed this year that an antitrust exemption was issued.


18 posted on 11/09/2009 4:06:29 PM PST by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: org.whodat

Hey the Saturn Plant is docile,”Ford a new way of doing Business”


19 posted on 11/09/2009 4:09:38 PM PST by Sir Beowolf ("We The People")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Ford, now is the time to get out from under the UAW thugs.

Ford should just fight this battle now when there are plenty of workers willing to work in a non-union shop.

The fall of GM, Chrysler was a combination of incompetent management in concert with the UAW thugs. Now that Ford seems to have better management it is time to resist the cancer that is the UAW, otherwise the union will slowly kill Ford.

20 posted on 11/09/2009 4:23:28 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: Cheetahcat

%%%Move South we know how to deal with scum down here%%%

Absolutely!

All auto plants in right to work states.


21 posted on 11/09/2009 4:32:24 PM PST by Mrs.Z
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To: TigerLikesRooster
If I was Ford, I'd do like Toyota moving from california to Texas, essentially telling the union thugs...

F**K YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on down to Tennesse, Georgia, Alabama, etc.

We don't NEED or WANT any stinkin' union thugs and pukes here in the good ol' SOUTH.

22 posted on 11/09/2009 4:33:10 PM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
If I was Ford, I'd do like Toyota moving from california to Texas, essentially telling the union thugs...

F**K YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on down to Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, etc.

We don't NEED or WANT any (1 is too many) stinkin' union thugs and pukes here in the good ol' SOUTH.

23 posted on 11/09/2009 4:34:08 PM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A company makes a few billion in profit in a quarter and it wants to cut it’s employees wages and benefits??? What’s the reason??? Just because it can???


24 posted on 11/09/2009 4:38:29 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

Uhhhh YES. Stop the nonsense youre acting like like your workers are in a sweat shop making nothing.


25 posted on 11/09/2009 4:47:23 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: VaRepublican
Uhhhh YES. Stop the nonsense youre acting like like your workers are in a sweat shop making nothing.

They're making billions...IF they start talking about dropping the price of their products as a result of the cut wages and benefits, I'll support their endeavor...

26 posted on 11/09/2009 4:56:57 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

exactly what cuts are u enduring?


27 posted on 11/09/2009 5:02:23 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wonder if Ford is still planning on funding the looney gay pride alliance?


28 posted on 11/09/2009 5:14:46 PM PST by pointsal
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To: pointsal
Yes, they will. Ford has to play a lap dog for Obama, if they want to avoid defacto nationalization.
29 posted on 11/09/2009 5:17:58 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: listenhillary
FORD MOTOR COMPANY ANNOUNCES NEW FLEXIBLE ASSEMBLY PLANT TO EXPAND PRODUCTION IN CHINA, it will be their fourth plant in china, it will build the next Focus. Oh, the caps are from:
http://www.egmcartech.com/2009/09/25/ford-to-build-fourth-plant-in-china-to-produce-next-generation-focus/
30 posted on 11/09/2009 5:35:25 PM PST by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Darn right. We make BMWs and will soon make Boeing planes. Come on down FORD. Just leave the Union thugs up north.


31 posted on 11/09/2009 5:42:10 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Agreed. Their choices are limited:

- They could cave and become GovernmentMotors 1.3

- They could fight and be bankrupted in short order

- They could fire the union sheep and become the Wal-Mart of car manufacturing. (”Hey, who wants a job!?!”)

(But the feds would make it impossible for them to do business. They’d have to move to China.)

No matter what they do, they’re screwed. UAW wins again. We’ll all be Obamotorists in the end.

- They might get (extremely) creative. The Rules Have Changed.


32 posted on 11/10/2009 1:31:09 AM PST by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: pointsal

That whole connection was dropped over a year ago with much fan fair from the org. that was going after Ford for it.


33 posted on 11/10/2009 3:01:38 AM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: DocH
Include Louisiana in that list, we don’t suck up to Union Thugs either.

I will never ever buy another auto build in a union (goverment) shop!

34 posted on 11/10/2009 3:29:34 AM PST by tiger63
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