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To: dirtboy

You are fuoll of excrement!

I have seen 10 times what you have seen, and the real difference is that I understand what is happening and you are hypnotized by the psuedo-science hype.

Everything that we see on this planet has been shaped in the last 4500 years. The physical evidence says it, and God’s word agrees.

If your position were half true, the oceans would have turned to swamps 50 million years ago from weather erosion. That is an undeniable fact.


81 posted on 11/10/2009 9:24:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

All this tripe you are posting that tell people that you have no knowledge of basic geology whatsoever.
And you call yourself a surveyor.


83 posted on 11/10/2009 9:38:16 PM PST by Wacka
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To: editor-surveyor
If your position were half true, the oceans would have turned to swamps 50 million years ago from weather erosion. That is an undeniable fact.

Uh, no, it's not. The ocean floor is under a continuous cycle of regeneration due to plate tectonics - and the sediments that accumulate on the ocean floors ends up accreting against continental margins around subduction zones.

Once again, your deliberate ignorance about geology is staggering.

84 posted on 11/11/2009 3:30:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: editor-surveyor; dirtboy

“You are fuoll of excrement!

I have seen 10 times what you have seen, and the real difference is that I understand what is happening and you are hypnotized by the psuedo-science hype.

Everything that we see on this planet has been shaped in the last 4500 years. The physical evidence says it, and God’s word agrees.

If your position were half true, the oceans would have turned to swamps 50 million years ago from weather erosion. That is an undeniable fact.”

Coming from the guy who claims that Africa and South America drifted apart to their current positions in about a year, that´s quite an ironic post.


85 posted on 11/11/2009 5:48:26 AM PST by Natufian
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To: editor-surveyor

The Beryllium-10 Bump

The geomagnetic reversal was not directly measured in the Dome C ice core. It is a deduction based on a slight increase in the abundance of the radioactive isotope beryllium-10 measured down the core, or a beryllium-10 bump, assumed correlated to the Matuyama-Brunhes geomagnetic reversal.3 This reversal is the last major reversal in the uniformitarian geological timescale before the recent period. The geological column contains dozens of paleomagnetic reversals, assumed to be caused by reversals of the Earth’s magnetic poles. The subject of reversals, and how they fit into the Creation-Flood model is beyond the scope of this article. Russell Humphreys has a good hypothesis on their cause during and right after the Genesis Flood.4

Beryllium-10 is a cosmogenic radioactive isotope formed by cosmic rays in the same manner carbon-14.5 Unlike carbon-14, it is scavenged from the atmosphere in about three weeks to one year. Beryllium-10 has a half life of 1.5 million years.6

However, the researchers arrived at this beryllium-10 bump by indirect methods. First, the bottom of the core between 3,100 and 3,190 meters contains many surprisingly beryllium-10 spikes or strong increases in concentration, making the background analysis of beryllium-10 in the core difficult: “However, their [the spikes] presence makes it very difficult to evaluate the production rate trends in the 10Be profile, which is what interests us here.”7 The origin of these spikes is unknown, but believed to be due to some sort of concentration variation on short spatial scales. So, the researchers apparently ignored the spikes in their calculations, which, in my opinion, is a questionable procedure.

The plot of beryllium-10 at the assumed age of the Matuyama-Brunhes geomagnetic reversal does not look significant. So, the researchers used the medians rather than the means of five measurements within each 55-centimeter long core sample. This procedure reduces the effects of small spikes left in the profile. However, it enhanced the beryllium-10 profile at the desired location at 3,160 meters—again, I would submit, a questionable procedure.

But, there were also enhanced beryllium-10 values at 3,100 and 3,180 meters in the ice core. Why wouldn’t these peaks be the sought-after Matuyama-Brunhes geomagnetic reversal, especially since there are a number of “paleomagnetic excursions” in the normal period since the Matuyama-Brunhes reversal.8 An excursion can be thought of as a decrease in paleomagnetic intensity, assumed to be caused by a failed reversal. Why couldn’t any of these many excursions be correlated to the beryllium-10 bump at 3,160 meters in the Dome C ice core?

Aaaaaand yet more ASSUMPTIONS made by old earth age advocates:

A Major Theoretical Problem
The researchers have a major theoretical problem. They assume that during a geomagnetic pole reversal, the intensity of the Earth’s magnetic field decreases tenfold, which allows more cosmic rays to form beryllium-10. The problem is that the effect supposedly occurs only equatorward of 60° latitude, which means that there should be no change in beryllium-10 production above the Antarctic Ice Sheet during a reversal!7,9 So, the process of increasing the concentration over Antarctica under these circumstances becomes speculative, although the formation of beryllium-10, its poleward transport, climatic effects, and its deposition on the ice are complicated and poorly understood.5,10,11

They justify the increase in beryllium-10 at the presumed Matuyama-Brunhes geomagnetic reversal by pointing to a spike in beryllium-10 at about 40,000 years, corresponding to the Laschamp geomagnetic excursion, within their timescale for the Antarctic Vostok ice core. There is another spike at about 60,000 years.11 Each spike supposedly lasted one to two thousand years. These spikes are also found in deep-sea cores.12,13 Researchers use these Vostok spikes as reference horizons to date other ice cores. However, such correlations have not fared well since the spikes are only about twice background levels, there are other spikes but not as high as the two spikes, the spikes are absent where expected in other cores, and they are located at the wrong times in other cores.11

And for our viewing pleasure- even more ASSUMPTIONS factored into the mix:

What about the old dates of hundreds of thousands of years obtained in Antarctica ice cores? How legitimate are these? First, Antarctic ice cores are not dated by counting annual layers, as is supposedly done in Greenland ice cores, because the snowfall is too light on top of Antarctica. The claimed counting in Greenland cores is based on many assumptions, especially the assumption that the ice is old to begin with.16 Dome C, as well as Vostok, is dated by ice flow modeling and wiggle matching of oxygen or deuterium isotope plots from deep-sea cores: “On the basis of ice flow modelling and a comparison between the deuterium signal in the ice with climate records from marine sediment cores, the ice at a depth of 3,190 m in the Dome C core is believed to have been deposited around 800,000 years ago.”5

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2006/12/28/still-trying


88 posted on 11/11/2009 9:37:12 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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