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Palin says she didn't know Bristol was having sex
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Posted on 11/15/2009 12:14:58 AM PST by Chet 99

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To: Just mythoughts
Just plain amazes me to observe the Jon Stewart media attempted to pick every ounce of flesh off her bones and liberals politicos attempted to financially destroy her. Then I get to read conservatives writing out the final sentence upon her.

Just because I don't think she'd make a good president doesn't mean I don't like her, or am "writing out the final sentence on her." There are billions of people I don't think would make a good president, that doesn't mean I am dissing them.

I agree completely that the nauseating Jon Stewart types have attacked this woman and her family unfairly. I just don't think she's going about keeping her privacy very well, because every time she brings up her family, it legitimizes someone else commenting on what she's saying.

21 posted on 11/15/2009 12:52:54 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Paul Newman sued the newspapers that dug into his son's drug-related death.

OK, but its still not analogous to Palin's situation where, not only has the MSM already done filthy hit job after filthy hit job on her and her whole family, but her daughter's baby daddy is talking trash to any MSM moron who will listen. If Newman had somebody touring the country talking trash about his son's death to the media, and already had the media publishing all the dirt, THEN it would be analogous.
22 posted on 11/15/2009 12:55:37 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: jveritas
Looking at the support she has from a large segment of the conservative base, it is hard to imagine that she is not very interested to run for President. In my opinion, if she does not get her acts together and work very hard on enhancing her communications skills, the 2012 primaries debates with other Republicans contenders will finish her off, and even many of her supporters will realize that she is not Presidential material. However in the next two years, she may be able to greatly enhance her communication skills, greatly enhance her damaged picture outside the conservative base, and then she may have a good chance of winning the primaries and the elections.

I have no clue if Sarah is considering a future in politics.

That said, IF she intends to have one, and she wants to keep her support from the conservative base, she will NOT pull lord McCain up into her chariot. No, she does not have to be disrespectful or degrading to him, but she cannot allow his adulterous sleeping with the liberals to infect her persona. IF she does then she will no longer be who she appears to be right now, an independent thinking and to the point. Drill baby Drill!!!!

23 posted on 11/15/2009 12:56:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jveritas
You may be right. We saw Palin the way we usually never see other politicians. I mean, we've had that moron Biden on our TV screens for over 20 years. I think Palin came off phenomenally well for someone new to the national spotlight...BUT, that's like saying a play's first read-through is one of the best first read-throughs ever. It's still not opening night material.

Palin was put in a position most politicians and public figures are not. It's like comparing a book in the new releases section of your bookstore with a first draft a struggling writer just finished. It's not fair to compare them, but it's also dishonest to deny that the rough draft simply isn't a finished book.

The MSM has been bashing this woman for a year. Similarly, they've been praising Obama for at least two. Is it FAIR that they have damaged her, possibly permanently, in the public view? No, it's not. But to deny that would be dishonest.

24 posted on 11/15/2009 12:57:21 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Darkwolf377
" I observe the facts of the matter"

I question what facts your drawing your conclusions on. Having witnessed the media's extraordinary efforts to make her damaged goods, and then reading you spout exactly what the media is saying. Well that just seems to me to be exactly what the media wants your opinion to be. But I'm sure you came up with it yourself.
25 posted on 11/15/2009 12:57:21 AM PST by JoSixChip (Time to start organizing, that's if we are ever going to.)
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To: Darkwolf377
You are fighting a losing battle here with many freepers when it comes to Sarah Palin. The emotions are high and the rational is low. If this continues many of us who do not think that Palin is the next Reagan and the savior of the Republican party are going to have a very tough time on this forum and may be banned.
26 posted on 11/15/2009 12:57:56 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: fr_freak

All analogies are rough analogies by their very nature, they are only about specific elements. My point is that Newman didn’t take part in the exposure of his family. Palin does.


27 posted on 11/15/2009 12:58:33 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Darkwolf377
Is it FAIR that they have damaged her, possibly permanently, in the public view? No, it's not. But to deny that would be dishonest.

Very well said.

28 posted on 11/15/2009 1:00:13 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: JoSixChip
Having witnessed the media's extraordinary efforts to make her damaged goods, and then reading you spout exactly what the media is saying. Well that just seems to me to be exactly what the media wants your opinion to be. But I'm sure you came up with it yourself.

You can be as snide as you like, I couldn't care less. I don't even watch cable or broadcast news, so you couldn't be more off base. In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about. But since I have a different opinion, that means you can say whatever you like?

Whatever. I do my own research, I listen to Palin, look at her interviews, her commentaries, and so forth. Do I think she's a good conservative? I do. Do I like her as a person? I do. Do I think she is of presidential caliber? The jury is still out, but at this point I do not. Unlike many here, what I wish were true doesn't blind me to what is actually true.

29 posted on 11/15/2009 1:01:32 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

30 posted on 11/15/2009 1:02:10 AM PST by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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To: jveritas
You are fighting a losing battle here with many freepers when it comes to Sarah Palin. The emotions are high and the rational is low. If this continues many of us who do not think that Palin is the next Reagan and the savior of the Republican party are going to have a very tough time on this forum and may be banned.

Very well said.

I like and admire Palin. That's not enough for some people.

31 posted on 11/15/2009 1:02:31 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Seriously folks, McCain is old news and history, I do not know why many are still so obsessed with him.
32 posted on 11/15/2009 1:02:47 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

the chance will come, Obama or Palin. Who would you vote for. No self respecting Conservative will vote for Obama. No matter what you think of Palin’s family, her policy is what you should be concerned about


33 posted on 11/15/2009 1:04:04 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Darkwolf377
My point is that Newman didn’t take part in the exposure of his family. Palin does.

My point is that Palin didn't take part in the exposure of her family -the MSM did that by themselves. Now she can either a) stay silent every time they come out with new BS and another David Letterman makes jokes about her kids or b) get her time in to defend her family. Either way, she never had a say in the "exposure".
34 posted on 11/15/2009 1:05:03 AM PST by fr_freak
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To: Darkwolf377

I honestly think she could be more influential and powerful as the next conservative Oprah then she would be as President of the United States. She doesn’t need the grief.


35 posted on 11/15/2009 1:05:40 AM PST by DavidAccord
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To: DavidAccord

The thing about being in politics is that what you say today may rear up and cause political problems later.

Okay, so maybe she doesn’t intend on running for president. But one cannot predict the future and she is being, how should I put it? Naive.


36 posted on 11/15/2009 1:06:38 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: fr_freak

Palin did appear on Saturday Night Live as a gag after SNL absolutely trashed her and her entire family.


37 posted on 11/15/2009 1:06:45 AM PST by DavidAccord
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To: Darkwolf377
Just because I don't think she'd make a good president doesn't mean I don't like her, or am "writing out the final sentence on her." There are billions of people I don't think would make a good president, that doesn't mean I am dissing them. I agree completely that the nauseating Jon Stewart types have attacked this woman and her family unfairly. I just don't think she's going about keeping her privacy very well, because every time she brings up her family, it legitimizes someone else commenting on what she's saying.

And you think she can ignore her family like George W. Bush ignored all the lies, deception, and hate spew about him through his 8 years as president.

I believe that each individual has the 'right' to be who they are and apparently her family is what is most important to be ready to talk about. And IF she must be required to hide them, then the Jon Stewart media will continue to 'taunt' and ridicule her either through dumpster digging or half truths.

It is the God given natural instinct to a woman to first look out for and protect her offspring. (Although liberals demonstrate their 'anti-God' given natural instincts to tell young girls to pretend otherwise and act like boys.) Now she is going to be ridiculed that she and what she stands for, 'you know' a Christian woman was NOT at home 24/7 checking under the covers and allowed her daughter to get pregnant.

Personally speaking I would think of her as another Hillary if she were to be taking the 'oh, some think I ought to be baking cookies', attitude. That was my first introduction to Hillary and have not been able to stand her since.

I like Sarah very much, and it is because of her DRILL baby DRILL, I could vote in last year's presidential election. However, that said, IF she thinks that lord McCain is a ticket to the white house I will turn my back on her.

38 posted on 11/15/2009 1:10:23 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: fr_freak
My point is that Palin didn't take part in the exposure of her family -the MSM did that by themselves. Now she can either a) stay silent every time they come out with new BS and another David Letterman makes jokes about her kids or b) get her time in to defend her family. Either way, she never had a say in the "exposure".

But she certainly did have a say in the exposure, and I admire her for it. Talking about her baby and the choice she made for life was brave...BUT it comes at a cost, and she is paying it.

She brings her family into the political realm. It's not a choice I would make in her position. But that doesn't mean she gets to avoid the fallout. If she brings the family up, they're not going to be off-limits.

Of course, look at how the MSM treats Obama's kids. Nothing has ever been written to equal the stories about whether or not Palin's baby is actually hers, or about their possible sex lives.

I'm not saying she hasn't been treated unfairly. I'm saying she's feeding the fires, because she is.

39 posted on 11/15/2009 1:11:40 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Just mythoughts
However, that said, IF she thinks that lord McCain is a ticket to the white house I will turn my back on her.

At least we can agree on that. He's awful.

40 posted on 11/15/2009 1:13:09 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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