Posted on 11/15/2009 8:14:23 AM PST by lbryce
WASHINGTON Not long after he was rousted from bed and seized in a predawn raid in Pakistan in March 2003, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed gave his captors two demands: He wanted a lawyer, and he wanted to be taken to New York.
After a nearly seven-year odyssey that took him to secret Central Intelligence Agency jails in Europe and an American military prison in Cuba, Mr. Mohammed is finally likely to get his wish.
He will be the most senior leader of Al Qaeda to date held to account for the mass murder of nearly 3,000 Americans, facing trial in Manhattan while his boss, Osama bin Laden, continues to elude a worldwide dragnet.
Yet the boastful, calculating and fiercely independent Mr. Mohammed has never neatly fit the mold of Qaeda chieftain. He has little use for the high-minded moralizing of some of his associates, and for years before the Sept. 11 attacks, he refused to swear an oath of loyalty to Mr. bin Laden figuring that if the Qaeda leader canceled the Sept. 11 plot, he would not have to obey the order.
The last time Mr. Mohammed had such a platform was at a military hearing at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, where he delivered a rambling exposition on a number of topics, including American history, citing Manifest Destiny and the Revolutionary War.
Because war, for sure, there will be victims, he said through a translator, explaining that he had some remorse for the children killed on Sept. 11, 2001. I said Im not happy that 3,000 people been killed in America. I feel sorry even. I dont like to kill children and the kids.
But he added: This is why the language of any war in the world is killing. I mean the language of the war is victims.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Fascinating insight into the mind of a psychopathic terrorist beast.
NYT provides a platform to a terrorist. Again.
First off these guys are going to pay a huge price for this pitiful miscalculation.
Americans are the most productive people anywhere and that is because we are the ultimate multi-taskers.
They are just adding to the pile of stuff we are concerned about or angry over. This is just one more log on the fire and we are the ones who have to manage it with our own pokers.
They are very, very mistaken about our ability to wage opposition on a multitude of issues and we will oppose them at every turn.
The funny part, is these war criminals could very well be acquitted.
Why? How?
First off, bringing them to New York? That is beyond laughable. No way could they get a fair trial so their defense attorneys will argue change of venue. It will be granted but where will it ultimately be tried?
Second, Miranda Rights. Not having received them, much of the evidence against them will be quashed or suppressed. Any that is brought forth will be challenged for chain of command or better yet defense will motion for discovery and los and behold they will have to conjure up a battle ship by the name of USS New York. Said ship is constructed of material from the World Trade Center girders but, unfortunately it has been altered.
Where are the remains of the planes?
How did the Hijackers gain control and what weapons where used?
What about 911 truther theories? Someone is going to bring that up and test it.
This will be a great idea: Hey, uh, Attorney General, why dont you try them together. The punch line is, a jury will need to find All of them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. They wont be able to.
Guantanamo and Habeas Corpus, which will likely come up twice. It will most certainly come up when the Defense demands dismissal for failure to bring forth a timely trial and as such again chain of command over all aspects of the case will come up. Funny, when the government starts pulling change of holding status it will become a huge defect in their case.
Why weren't these alleged murderers (Okay, we still call them terrorist) all availed a competent attorney, who cold pursue a logical, lawful and legal case that follows a traditional path and in some way makes sense?
Torture of a suspect to coerce a confession is not cool. Now if they in jeopardy under the military code of justice as battlefield prisoners then big deal.
But, and really big BUT, when this happens in the traditional area of law enforcement, we let guys go who are indeed really bad guys and we hand them a check. In this case it could indeed be a rather large check.
What about pursuing civil rights violations? Being held against your will in another country? Whoa, man, that is pretty heavy. Being forced to take medication against ones will, what if they died or were scared silly?
What about the schlubs that got let go? The defense will want to question them but, alas they will not be available for examination. Why is that important? They were rounded up like cattle with the other alleged terrorists, now criminals and they may have information relevant to exoneration of these alleged murders.
Well, well, well...now what will become of the suspects upon acquittal? Where will we release them? What if they claim to be stateless? Who will take them?
Couldn't they apply for asylum? Couldn't they make a Federal Case out of hardship and begin the process of citizenship or alien residency?
What about their ability to go on the college circuit giving speeches?
They are, after all, men who have been held for years for a crime of which they were acquitted.
Shouldn't they be free to move about the country while they pursue a counter suit and damages for being kidnapped and held as political prisoners for years?
Can't they sue for damages and their lost lives of the last 8 years?
This is going to be fun, for the alleged murderers and they are going to bask in the Arab and m uslim adoration world wide, while making a fool of our government and justice system.
We, the American Public, are going to be rightfully angry when we let these animals go. But that is the way is the cookie crumbles.
Enjoy the next 5-7 years while the government does their dog and pony show.
Me, I think I will begin eating popcorn without butter.
Can the tape of the beheading of Daniel Pearl be used in this trial? As disturbing as it is, they should show it on the biggest plama screen in the courtroom with a full dobe sound system... and run it at least 10 times a day. Every news channel should show it 100 times a day... much like they did the balloon boy story, because this is what all Islamists want to do to you and your children.
In retrospect, the use of the word “fascinating” in describing the despicable mind of Khalid Mohammed as revealed in the article seems to smack too much of glorification, the inclusion of which I regret, apologize for, having meant to convey revelations into his mind that were horrific, abhorrent, detestable.
Good point, I hadn’t thought of the International court
“...for a man who describes himself as a jackal, consumed with a zeal for perpetual battle against the United States.”
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Sounds like they are describing Pres_ent Hussein!!
Remember....everything is a "show" for Obama. There are no consequences in his mind. All decisions are made to elevate himself.
Well, not exactly.
No ticker tape parades/
Let’s just assume the majority of them are hoping
“for the best” and keepin’ their fingers crossed
that some “good points” get made during the trial.
Once that happens they’d probably have no problem with
KSM getting, oh, 10-15 years in prison.
Of course it can, but it won't be, for the same reason they don't show the stacks of dead babies in some abortion clinics.
Terrific. Then he can write a book and have Whorealdo pump it up as a screed of encouragement for a now softened Jihadist.
“Remember....everything is a “show” for Obama.”
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I think you have something there. You just defined “community organizer.”
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