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To: mlizzy
I am just coming off of this. I highly recommend Tamiflu!. You have to take it from 12 to 48 hours of onset of symptoms.

My Dr's receptionist argued with me that they did not have the vaccine? for the swine flu or the H1N1 flu. I told her it wasn't a vaccine. Since she was a moron, I just had her get me into see the Doctor ASAP.

I saw him early the next day. 1 minute into my symptoms, he mentions Tamiflu. Finally!!! The stuff works miracles although I am still sneezing and coughing up disgusting things which mean I'm still contagious but I feel better. Now I supposedly have immunity from H1N1, woo hoo!!!!!

Get Tamiflu, it's great stuff. I'm going to ask if I can get a stockpile for it! It's only ten caps you take in the morning and evening.

11 posted on 11/16/2009 7:21:56 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx
Might not be a bad idea to buy some stock in Roche. I need to see if they're the patent holder and the only one allowed to make it.

Hmmmm, from Wiki: A quick visit to the page on the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) web site that contains the "Patent Assignment Abstract of Title" for Patent #5763483 (for oseltamivir) clearly shows that Gilead Sciences, Inc., located at 353 Lakeside Drive, Foster City, California 94404, is the patent holder, having been assigned it by the five named researchers who invented this particular "carbocyclic compound."

I can't find if Roche is the sole license holder but it appears they are since governments are demanding the right to make it do to the 'pandemic'. Scary article:

http://www.genengnews.com/articles/chitem.aspx?aid=1255&chid=0

OK, maybe this would save millions of lives (I thought all it did was relieve symptoms but what do I know?) but it seems to me to set a precedent for this kind of looting.

16 posted on 11/16/2009 7:30:48 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx; windcliff; stylecouncilor

Tamiflu ping


27 posted on 11/16/2009 7:50:34 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Lx

This medical doctor and her children did get the swine flu twice .

Also a different researcher found 7 different sequences of H1N1 which means it might have mutated which would explain why people have gotten the swine flut twice .

Links Are Below :

http://dailymail.com/News/200911041062
Thursday November 5, 2009

Area doctor says she tested positive for H1N1 twice

by Zack Harold
Daily Mail staff


The Comments Below are by Pixie Site Admin at PFI ( Pandemic Flu Information Forum ) about the H1N1 Virus mutating ...

Pixie
Site Admin

Joined: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 28606
Location: CT, USA
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:23 am Post subject:


Time to dust off the old community mitigation guidelines.

We’ve all heard CDC officials state, from the beginning, that this novel pandemic virus is “stable” and has “not mutated.” It appears that while they were making those statements, they did indeed know that it already had changed, that pandemic H1N1 even in the first month after its initial detection had branched into several distinct clades.

All seven clades discussed in the PLoS paper had been detected by May 2, 2009. (”Stable” my eye..)

From the PLoS paper: http://knol.google.com/k/the-early-diversification-of-influenza-a-h1n1pdm?collectionId=28qm4w0q65e4w.1&position=1#
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Clade 2 also contains isolates from among the earliest known cases of H1N1pdm in Mexico and California (e.g., A/Mexico/4108/2009, collected April 2, 2009). The TMRCA of clade 2 suggests it emerged around the same time as clade 1 (February 14 – March 12, 2009, 95% HPD) and circulated for ~3 – 6 weeks prior to detection (Fig. 3). [/b] In contrast to clade 1, clade 2 disseminated widely to Canada, France, Germany, China, and to multiple US states: Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, New York, Washington, and Wisconsin (Fig. 2).

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Clade 3 was detected by surveillance several weeks after clades 1 and 2 (A/Arizona/01/2009, collected April 22, 2009). However, the TMRCA (February 21 – March 19, 2009, 95% HPD) suggests that clade 3 emerged at a similar time as clades 1 and 2, and only was detected later. Clade 3 is the most geographically diverse, containing isolates from Norway, France, England, Germany, Puerto Rico, China, Japan, Canada, Mexico, and the US states of New York, Wisconsin, and Arizona (Fig. 2). Although no amino acid changes have been fixed among all clade 3 isolates, at least 13 different amino acid changes were observed among clusters of isolates contained within this clade (data not shown).

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Clade 4 is the only clade in this study that contains isolates from only one region: all 11 isolates are from East Asia. Clade 4 is characterized by fixed amino acid changes in the PB2 (V649I), PB1 (I667T), NP (V100I), and NA (V106I), and NS2 (E63K) (Table 1). Clade 4 was the last to be detected in this study, as the first isolate (A/Korea/01/2009) was not identified until May 2, 2009. However, the TMRCA of clade 4 (March 5 – April 18, 2009, 95% HPD) suggests that clade 4 circulated for ~2 – 7 weeks prior to detection, and likely in non-Asian countries as well (Fig. 3).

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Clade 5 is the second largest clade identified here, due primarily to the fact that nearly 88% (71/81) of isolates collected from Wisconsin belong to this clade (Fig. 2). More than 90% (71/77) of isolates in clade 5 were collected from Wisconsin, where the clade was first detected (April 28, 2009) and appears to have proliferated rapidly (Table S1). Clade 5 also was identified several weeks later in Canada, China, and Japan (Fig. 2).

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Clade 6 is geographically diverse, given its size in this study (13 isolates) and relatively late TMRCA, ranging from April 4 – April 20, 2009 (95% HPD), which is ~1 – 3 weeks prior to detection (Fig. 3). Following the collection of the first clade 6 isolates on April 28, 2009 in the US, isolates were collected from Canada, China, Italy, and Japan (Fig. 2).

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Clade 7 is the largest identified in this study, representing more than one-third of all isolates (35.2%, 102/290) (Table S1). Almost 83% (67/81) of isolates from New York are members of clade 7. Clade 7 also contains isolates from Canada, China, Japan, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, Russia, and the US states of California, Maryland, Massachusetts, Ohio, and Wisconsin (Fig. 2). Approximately 40% of the isolates collected from Europe and Asia are members of clade 7 (Fig. 2). Clade 7 is characterized by fixed amino acid changes in the NP (V100I) and NA (V106I and N248D) that are also found in clades 5 and 6, as well as by unique amino acid changes in the HA (S206T) and NS1 (I123V) (Table 1). Clade 7 was first detected April 24, 2009..

How many clades of pandemic H1N1 now exist today, six and a half months after Clade 7 was detected, is anyone’s guess I suppose.

:

http://www.singtomeohmuse.com/viewforum.php?f=1


39 posted on 11/17/2009 5:37:39 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the avian / H1N1 ping list)
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