Italian Mayors Order Crufixes Put in Classrooms in Revolt against European Court Ruling

LifeSite ^ | November 17, 2009 | Hilary White

[NYer]

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[nina0113]

Fabrizio Quattrocchi’s culture. He didn’t come out of nowhere. I have no idea what his religious beliefs were, but his courage was unquestionable.

[darkside321]

The mayor of Priverno in the province of Latina, Lazio, central Italy, signed an order which provides for the maintenance of crucifixes in classrooms of primary schools throughout the municipality.

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as much as i despise the ruling of the “european court” but is this guy willing to pay the fine Italy will definitely get for not comparing to this rules out of his own pocket too?

[NYer]

as much as i despise the ruling of the “european court” but is this guy willing to pay the fine Italy will definitely get for not comparing to this rules out of his own pocket too?

If you don't stand up for what you believe in, they will steamroll you into the ground. Here is a famous statement attributed to the German anti-Nazi activist, Pastor Martin Niemöller.

In Germany they first came for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me —
and by that time no one was left to speak up.

[Marty62]

‘National Reich Church’ drawn up during the war by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan...
excerpt:
“The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...’”

“On the altars there must be nothing but ‘Mein Kampf’ (to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

“On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika.”

[Angry_White_Man_Syndrome]

Yea, look how well it did for our country to kowtow to the likes of the ACLU. I guess it is just better to be a coward and let other countries over rule your culture.

[darkside321]

If you don’t stand up for what you believe in, they will steamroll you into the ground...

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there is nothing wrong in stand up for what you believe. but in this case all others will be forced to pay for what he believes. this is why i asked if he is willing to pay the fine on his own. and it should be noticed that this guy is free (as every other citizen of italy to fight against this “ruling” in the European court) of course it would take his money this time to fight for what he believes. btw. Italy SHOULD fight against this in the EU court.

[manc]

these elitists just do not understand the normal general population.

When you tell a group they cannot do something which they hold dear to their hearts then they will do it even more.

Good for these mayors and I wish we had some like that .
What our cowards do not understand is that when they make a stand like this then more folks will respect them instead they take the PC way (which helps to kill people)

[Secret Agent Man]

I’d put crosses everywhere. Put one at 12-oclock on every clock in the school.

[manc]

don’t pay the fine

what are the EU clowns going to do
?,Come in and jail everyone, no course not nor are they going to jail anyone either.

Maybe the clowns who do not want crosses should look more to the mosques getting built with saudi money and are being used as recruitment places plus spreading their hate and bigotry

[darkside321]

don’t pay the fine

what are the EU clowns going to do
?,Come in and jail everyone, no course not nor are they going to jail anyone either.

Maybe the clowns who do not want crosses should look more to the mosques getting built with saudi money and are being used as recruitment places plus spreading their hate and bigotry

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you are joking arn´t you? so what do you think the EU is? some joke where a country can be in if it fits for the moment and if it don´t just say no? sounds nice but could not be further away from reality. Italy is bound to this “club” by countless, laws,rules, treaties.... there are hundret of ways how the EU can punish Italy if they want.

[manc]

You really think that the EU will be looking to punish Italy if they do not pay a fine for putting a cross up?

If so and they do, then it’s no wonder I left there and came here.

[manc]

there would be crosses on walls, buildings, in shops. around my neck, earrings. on clothes etc.

[darkside321]

You really think that the EU will be looking to punish Italy if they do not pay a fine for putting a cross up?

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definitely!!! this is not even open to discussion. Italy has accepted the EU court as highest instance and there for they will enforce this without a blink of an eye.

[tractorman]

Isn’t the cross just a symbol of ancient Roman capital punishment?

[manc]

if true what you say then no wonder I left

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

....the display of crucifixes violated the religious rights of pupils.

Uh-huh. Non Catholic students.

Now...who might those students be? Hmmm?

Jewish students? Nope. They generally don't have a problem with a crucifix.
Hindu students? Nah.
Bhuddist students? Uh-uh.
Shinto?
Mayans?
Aztecs?
Zoroastrians?
Venezuelan Beaver Cheesers?

We all know who this very sensitive minority is, don't we?

[darkside321]

this is definitely true. happens on daily bases all over the EU countries. you either battle it out again in a european court room (this is still possible for italy), or you better agree, and if not “feel free to” hand over millions of euros to the EU till the day you finally agree to this decision.
but i´m glad to hear that you like it in your new country.

[manc]

love and proud of it.

I will not stand idly by and see this great country go the same way as Europe.
One would think that the left would learn from mistakes but it seems they do not.

As for health care then I am shocked how those on the left keep saying how Govt health care is great, maybe they should go and live under it and then have a say about it.