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Orly Taitz Refuses to Pay Judge’s $20,000 Sanction
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Posted on 11/17/2009 12:06:33 PM PST by mnehring

Orly Taitz is refusing to pay a $20,000 sanction issued by Judge Clay Land, who is also presiding over the Mark Shelnutt trial.

Taitz is the California attorney who filed a motion for Capt. Connie Rhodes. Rhodes attempted to halt her Iraq deployment on the grounds that President Obama’s holding office was not legitimate.

Taitz told News 3 that she believes the sanctions were asserted in an attempt to silence her challenge of Obama’s legitimacy.

“I really haven’t done anything that would justify the sanction. If anything it is the opposite. The sanction was not justified. It was a political move. It is an extremely dangerous precedent to set.“

Taitz has retained counsel for her appeal.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; clayland; lane; obama; obotland; obottrollbaitthread; orly; orlytaitz; whackamole
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To: Mr. K
This may backfire- maybe it will cause her to have ‘standing’

Standing to do what?

21 posted on 11/17/2009 12:59:15 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: drypowder
Could be a plan to get the issue to the Supreme Court.

I don't suppose you can cite a single instance where a lawyer's fine made it all the way to the Supreme Court can you?

22 posted on 11/17/2009 1:00:44 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: El Sordo
Excuse me?

1.7 million dollars in legal fees to prevent his birth records from seeing the light of day, and you don't see anything wrong here?

What kind of drugs are you on?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114202

23 posted on 11/17/2009 1:02:55 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: drypowder
My thought was that she will fight until the $20K fine is dismissed which could then allow the reopening of the Obama legitimacy issue. We'll see.

The sanction will be upheld-- appeals court judges are judges, and don't like to see lawyers accuse judges of "treason" or falsely accuse judges of unethical behavior (Orly accused Judge Land of secretly meeting with Attorney General Holder to talk about the case, on a day when Holder was actually in Los Angeles).

And even if the sanction were reversed, that would not "allow the reopening of the Obama legitimacy issue." Only Captain Rhodes has standing to appeal that part of the order, and she didn't.

24 posted on 11/17/2009 1:03:04 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: r9etb

She is a good person.

I wondered how many seconds would elapse until
Romney’s hoards, BOTs, and flotsam would
attack her for Obama.


25 posted on 11/17/2009 1:05:21 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: GI Joe Fan
Here are my questions for the group...

Here are some answers:

1) See Lurking Libertarians explanation in Reply 16.
2) Because he can.
3) There is no Kangaroo Court. Orly's problems are entirely of her own making.

26 posted on 11/17/2009 1:05:47 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: GI Joe Fan

Land is being coached by 0bama’s thugs on how to play Chi-Town Hardball. Intimidation is job one.


27 posted on 11/17/2009 1:05:47 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Exactly.

Some Freepers here choose to face the 1.7 million dollar gorilla in the room by putting their heads in the sand.

No one, BUT NO ONE, spends 1.7 million dollars in a courtroom unless he has something serious to hide.

His Constitutional eligibility as President is at stake, and too many here at Free Republic choose to mock those of us who ask simple questions.

28 posted on 11/17/2009 1:09:09 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: GI Joe Fan
2.6 million to the law firm of Perkins & Cole to cover various legal fees and services.

1.7 million of that since the election.

Unless you can provide a specific cost breakdown that shows 1.7 million going specifically to “prevent his birth records from seeing the light of day”, you are being disingenuous.

29 posted on 11/17/2009 1:12:53 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: GI Joe Fan
No one, BUT NO ONE, spends 1.7 million dollars in a courtroom unless he has something serious to hide.

Not a dime has come out of his pocket so what does Obama care?

30 posted on 11/17/2009 1:13:25 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: GI Joe Fan

bet that 1.7 mil created a lot of jobs.......LOL


31 posted on 11/17/2009 1:14:59 PM PST by tioga
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To: Diogenesis
She is a good person.

She's a fruit loop who by her ridiculous antics brought it on herself.

Read Judge Land's ruling. She clogged the court like a 10-burrito eating binge.

32 posted on 11/17/2009 1:16:18 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Non-Sequitur
That doesn't answer the question.

WHY spend 1.7 million dollars if there is nothing to hide?

33 posted on 11/17/2009 1:16:32 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: El Sordo
You fail to see the forest through the trees.

Millions of dollars being spent on legal fees to prevent simple public documents from being examined.

For what reason is this happening?

34 posted on 11/17/2009 1:18:34 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: GI Joe Fan; El Sordo

The challenge with that statement is that is a summary of what he paid his lawyers, not specifically for what. While running for president and as president, there will be many functions he would use lawyer for, from analyzing all personal financial and real estate transactions, to handling all campaign compliance and financing paperwork, etc, etc.

WND needs to dig deeper than they have and find specific out-layer costs for action, not just general payments to law firms.


35 posted on 11/17/2009 1:18:44 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Gotcha.

I still fail to understand why Americans are met by an army of lawyers whenever a simple public record will suffice.

Again, my question receives no answer.

If there is nothing to hide, then why throw all these lawyers at the American people?

36 posted on 11/17/2009 1:21:06 PM PST by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: All

I have a question - WHO gets the $$ IF she pays? And, who usually gets the money when people are fined in other cases??


37 posted on 11/17/2009 1:26:36 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: GI Joe Fan

That’s a good question because the conclusion lies in his hands.

On one hand, if a long form certificate does exist that would clear this up, there must be another reason for not releasing it, be it he likes to use the issue as a political weapon, it has some other embarrassing detail (bastard?), etc...

However, if it does not exist, considering the position he is in, why not just have some document expert over at the CIA make a fake one. No need to for the cheap Photoshop crap he is accused of. I’m sure there are people out there who would be willing to make one using period papers, period stamps, etc that would be completely indistinguishable from a real one and they would have no qualms or risks presenting.

The ball in Zero’s court, but I think there may be more reasons he doesn’t do one of the above in regards to releasing it than people want to venture into.


38 posted on 11/17/2009 1:27:19 PM PST by mnehring
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To: jackibutterfly
WHO gets the $$ IF she pays?

The Judge has asked that the money go to a Vet's association (Wounded Warrior foundation?) That determination is up to the judge usually. Most of the time it goes to the State coffers, but sometimes, they direct it to non-profits.

39 posted on 11/17/2009 1:28:46 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Oh, good. Thanks. I was afraid individual persons would get the money.


40 posted on 11/17/2009 1:30:43 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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