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Maersk Alabama crew repels another pirate attack - this time they had guns
AIPNews.com ^ | November 18, 2009 | Tom Kovach

Posted on 11/18/2009 9:39:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance

About an hour ago, the Associated Press reported that the crew of the US-flagged merchant vessel Maersk Alabama repelled a pirate attack off the coast of Somalia.  This is the same ship that was boarded by pirates last April.  At that time, the captain of the ship was taken hostage and was held by pirates in a lifeboat for five days.  The incident ended when US Navy SEAL snipers simultaneously killed all three pirates aboard the lifeboat in a nighttime action.  This time, the pirates never got aboard the ship.

What was the difference?  Guns.

As the AP report makes abundantly clear, members of the "international community" are steadfastly opposed to having armed guards or crewmembers aboard their vessels.  And, events have provided a telling contrast between the two positions.  On Monday, the chemical tanker Theresa was hijacked and its captain is now dead.  (According to the AP report, the captain was not killed during the attack, but rather died later of internal injuries.  That suggests a follow-on beating.)  On Tuesday, the crew of a Spanish vessel was released after Somali pirates received a $3.3-million ransom.  If I were a merchant seaman, I'd want to work only on an American vessel -- and thus live to laugh about "international opinion".

Europeans complain that many ex-military armed guards used by American shipping companies (plus those of a scarce few other countries) have no maritime security experience.  (Apparently, those Europeans have never heard of the United States Marines or the US Navy SEALs....)  The cure is simple.  The Massachussetts Maritime Academy teaches a course on maritime security.  Apparently, certain shipping companies are willing to pay the fee.  It's cheaper than lost cargo, increased insurance premiums, and dead crewmembers.

The lesson here is simple, but bears repeating.  Criminals are predators that prefer "soft targets".  Weakness invites predators, and advocating a policy against self-defense is merely an invitation to such predators.  European shipping companies maintain the position that it is the job of the naval forces of various countries to protect shipping.  But, most countries have only limited military and naval resources at best.  Even the military and naval forces of the United States are only a fraction of the size that the used to be before the Democratic downsizing craze (which started at the end of the Vietnam War, and continues to this day).  Therefore, hoping for a warship to come along and save the day is a high-seas equivalent of trying to call the police during a home invasion.  That is why many gun-rights advocates refer to "911" as merely "government-sponsored dial-a-prayer".

Chances are that the surviving crewmembers would never be prosecuted for defending themselves against a pirate attack.  But, even if they were, a conviction would be unlikely.  An old saying applies:  "Better to be tried by twelve than carried by six."


Tom Kovach (rhymes with "watch") is an author, inventor, horse wrangler, paralegal, and a former USAF Blue Beret.  He is the Tennessee state chairman of America's Independent Party.  Tom has been on the ballot for Congress twice.  You can learn more by clicking:   www.TomKovach.US.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; islam; killemall; letallahsortemout; maersk; maerskalabama; maritime; pirates; skinnies; somalia; somalipirates; thugs

1 posted on 11/18/2009 9:39:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Oh My GOD!!!! Don’t these people know that guns are dangerous????


2 posted on 11/18/2009 9:42:17 AM PST by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: EternalVigilance

Good to hear that American ships are protecting themselves. Why bring NOTHING to a gun fight?


3 posted on 11/18/2009 9:43:23 AM PST by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: EternalVigilance

Piracy is only profitable when the rewards exceed the costs.


4 posted on 11/18/2009 9:45:18 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: Fred911
Criminals are predators that prefer "soft targets". Weakness invites predators, and advocating a policy against self-defense is merely an invitation to such predators.

If the government beuracrats didn't secretly believe this they wouldn't hide their offices behind bullet proof glass and state police bodyguards

5 posted on 11/18/2009 9:45:54 AM PST by Gordon Pym
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To: EternalVigilance

Now all anyone will need to do to get through the pirate infested waters is fly an American flag.


6 posted on 11/18/2009 9:48:49 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping!


7 posted on 11/18/2009 9:49:45 AM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: Fred911
These security crewman need to be sent to Guantanamo to be prosecuted by a military tribunal. No lawyers for them and no special things like habeus corpus or 5th amendment protection for them.

What they did was worse than 9/11! The pirates were probably Muslim and now they have been provoked to an unimaginable degree. We may expect another Fort Hood uprising because of this and that uprising will be completely justified! Think of the copycat school shootings that will occur! And the sudden outbreak of Roman Catholic preists molesting young boys.

What have these monsters wrought? (/liberal)

8 posted on 11/18/2009 9:51:29 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: spodefly

And bring some guns, too.


9 posted on 11/18/2009 9:52:56 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Gordon Pym

To pick up a tax form at a privately owned building in which the IRS has its local office, I have to go through a metal detector and past armed guards. That shows there is a perception of danger for the bureaucrats.

Those federal bureaucrats and our state bureaucrats are not in favor of we citizens having similar protection in our private lives. We citizens are always one vote away from laws ending our right of self protection. Be vigilant.


10 posted on 11/18/2009 9:53:58 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: EternalVigilance

bump for publicity


11 posted on 11/18/2009 10:06:36 AM PST by VOA
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To: EternalVigilance

12 posted on 11/18/2009 10:12:02 AM PST by bmwcyle (When do they collect and jail the homeless when they don't buy their health care?)
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To: nutmeg

They had the old equalizers.


13 posted on 11/18/2009 10:24:11 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Good article

Good that the American shipping companies are getting away from one tenet of Liberal Free Trade Globalism.....that “International Community” garbage....that discourages ships from taking their own security measures. Suprised the Free Traders havent called the Maersk and other ships “isolationist”, “protectionist”, or the other Anti-American terms the Free Traders hurl out


14 posted on 11/18/2009 10:25:56 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Illegal Alien Amnesty Is Anti-American Bigotry)
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To: EternalVigilance

The willingness of these shipping companies to pay ransoms rather than deal with piracy only encourages more piracy. Simply declaring that any unidentified boats in these waters will be presumed to be pirates and sunk on sight would quickly end the problem. Even just arming these vessels discourages the pirates. Perhaps someone should repeat the success of the German raider ships during WW-I and WW-II, using heavily armed vessels camouflaged to look like merchant ships or civilian yachts.


15 posted on 11/18/2009 10:27:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ

A better Somali education system is the real answer.


16 posted on 11/18/2009 10:31:42 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
After all the sturm und drang about allowing merchants crews to arm themselves (mostly in the negative), it looks like something was finally "allowed". Isn't that special.

We can always depend on our lapdog media to keep us informed about things they don't like...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 11/18/2009 10:41:31 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: RicocheT
To pick up a tax form at a privately owned building in which the IRS has its local office, I have to go through a metal detector and past armed guards. That shows there is a perception of danger for the bureaucrats.

They live in government built fortresses where there is absolutely no immediate fear of the people on the part of the bureaucrats. They do have an abstract concern about what might happen -- kind of like you have the knowledge in the back of your mind that when you step off a curb you could get hit by a bus but it is not enough to stop you from stepping off curbs.

This is the problem with giving these people power. They know they are well protected and can operate with impunity. They can even destroy people with their power and no one can touch them even if they do something illegal. Their fellows will close ranks around them and someone that has the gall to complain had better be prepared to give their life in the struggle because the agency wiseguys will come down on them like Michael Moore on a stack of pancakes.

18 posted on 11/18/2009 10:44:11 AM PST by Gordon Pym
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To: Mr. Lucky
"A better Somali education system is the real answer."

Some educational tools are better than others:


19 posted on 11/18/2009 10:45:59 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: EternalVigilance
For armed security to truly make a safer environment, they would need to actually kill pirates who attack the ship, rather than firing some shots to scare them off.

Scaring them off just means they attack the next ship passing through.

20 posted on 11/18/2009 10:52:37 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Redbob
If these loswers would have read a little history, they would have known better than to f*ck with a vessel named the Alabama.
21 posted on 11/18/2009 10:58:02 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: bmwcyle

A couple of sniper weapons on top of that would work real good.


22 posted on 11/18/2009 11:02:54 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m booking MY cruise off Somalia TODAY!!’

http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3617/85/


23 posted on 11/18/2009 11:10:23 AM PST by Dick Bachert ('08 WASN'T AN ELECTION. IT WAS AN INFESTATION. FUMIGATION HAS ALREADY BEGUN!)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


24 posted on 11/18/2009 11:13:46 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dick Bachert

That’s beautiful man.

Sign me up!


25 posted on 11/18/2009 11:14:17 AM PST by EternalVigilance (We're witnessing the slow strangulation death of American republican self-government and liberty.)
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To: EternalVigilance

As reported by AP, the Euro-pacifists were aghast that the ship actually used guns (horrors!) to defend itself (see below).

I am still trying to understand why pirates are not immediately executed, as they are in gross violation of international law.

From AP: However, Roger Middleton, a piracy expert at the London-based think tank Chatham House, said the international maritime community was still “solidly against” armed guards aboard vessels at sea, but that American ships have taken a different line than the rest of the international community.

“Shipping companies are still pretty much overwhelmingly opposed to the idea of armed guards,” Middleton said. “Lots of private security companies employee people who don’t have maritime experience. Also, there’s the idea that it’s the responsibility of states and navies to provide security. I would think it’s a step backward if we start privatizing security of the shipping trade.”


26 posted on 11/18/2009 11:25:13 AM PST by KingofZion
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To: KingofZion

Time to start hanging ‘em from the yard arm.


27 posted on 11/18/2009 11:26:42 AM PST by EternalVigilance (We're witnessing the slow strangulation death of American republican self-government and liberty.)
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To: Fred911

Once again, we have proof that Disarming the law-abiding DOESN’T PROTECT the Law-abiding.

[I know, I know ‘Well duhh..]

We have a crime prevented because the good guys were armed, whereas before we had a crime facilitated because the good guy Weren’t armed.

Why does this have to be proven time and time again?


28 posted on 11/18/2009 11:37:00 AM PST by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: Redbob
and some are even better than that
29 posted on 11/18/2009 12:31:42 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Dick Bachert

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Love it!


30 posted on 11/18/2009 12:38:41 PM PST by walford (http://the-big-pic.org)
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To: EternalVigilance

I get the idea that most pirate boats would be deterred by a 30cal machine gun. Firing from high on the deck of a freighter would be easier than firing an RPG from a skiff.


31 posted on 11/18/2009 12:43:55 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Dominick

Indeed.

Your tagline is one of the best I’ve ever seen on FR.


32 posted on 11/18/2009 12:56:44 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We're witnessing the slow strangulation death of American republican self-government and liberty.)
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To: EternalVigilance

This article says that it was a specially trained security force, not the actual crew, hired by the shipping line that opened fire on the pirates as they approached the freighter. Given the positive outcome, it hardly matters. It also says that this repeat on the Maersk took place 350 miles from Somalia. It looks like the pirates have greatly expanded their hunting area.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/piracy/6598482/Somali-pirates-attack-US-flagged-Maersk-Alabama-a-second-time.html


33 posted on 11/18/2009 4:40:17 PM PST by Mila
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yeah, I know. “blood running in the streets” all over again. Nothing but bad can come of this.

‘cept maybe some pirates that go hungry! or perhaps even out of business. Yeah, but that would be bad, right?

Ignorance is amazing, isn’t it?


34 posted on 11/18/2009 5:40:36 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: The Great RJ

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35 posted on 11/18/2009 5:52:18 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: The Great RJ

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36 posted on 11/18/2009 5:56:35 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Dominick

“I get the idea that most pirate boats would be deterred by a 30cal machine gun.

I think .50cal machine guns would permanently deter pirate’s boats. Make that incendiary rounds.


37 posted on 11/18/2009 6:03:07 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Blue Collar Christian

<”img src=http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_060404-N-8485T-012.jpg”/>


38 posted on 11/18/2009 9:03:12 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: KingofZion

Middleton said.: “ I would think it’s a step backward if we start privatizing security of the shipping trade.”

This “expert’s” idea has FAIL written all over it.


39 posted on 11/18/2009 9:16:14 PM PST by Redcitizen (Zartan for President 2012)
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To: wjcsux

The link isn’t working for me.


40 posted on 11/18/2009 9:33:57 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: wjcsux

Never mind, cut and paste got it.

TOO KOOL! That’s what I talkin bout.

No puny M60 to scare ‘em off. We want ‘em gone fer good!


41 posted on 11/18/2009 9:38:27 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Dick Bachert

“Oooo-Weee, ooo-weee Baby! Won’t you let me take you on a Sea-Cruise!”


42 posted on 11/19/2009 7:41:52 AM PST by gigster
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks neverdem.
the US-flagged merchant vessel Maersk Alabama repelled a pirate attack off the coast of Somalia. This is the same ship that was boarded by pirates last April. At that time, the captain of the ship was taken hostage and was held by pirates in a lifeboat for five days. The incident ended when US Navy SEAL snipers simultaneously killed all three pirates aboard the lifeboat in a nighttime action. This time, the pirates never got aboard the ship. What was the difference? Guns. As the AP report makes abundantly clear, members of the "international community" are steadfastly opposed to having armed guards or crewmembers aboard their vessels.
By "international community" the "journalists" of AP mean state sponsors of terrorist.
43 posted on 11/19/2009 5:35:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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