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Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
Watts Up With That? ^ | 19/11/2009 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 11/20/2009 1:39:35 AM PST by jsh3180

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To: delapaz

It just showed up there, the current spin is that the emails were taken out of context. ho boy, is this going to be fun.

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/09/11/20/1747257/Climatic-Research-Unit-Hacked-Files-Leaked?art_pos=1


201 posted on 11/20/2009 12:23:58 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: maggief

I learned recently that some of the initial hype about the affect of CO2 on the planet was pressed by none other than.....Margaret Thatcher.

It is true. It was during the 80s and Thatcher was lobbying hard for nuclear power plants for the UK. She was meeting with staunch resistance because of Chernobol in 1986. When in the 70s “scientists” were pushing global cooling, it was recommended that CO2 could be pumped into the atmosphere to warm the planet. When the debate switched to global warming the CO2 thing stuck. Thatcher pushed for what became the IPCC panel and pointed to Nuclear Power as a source of energy that did not emit CO2.

Before you cry BS, go do some research.


202 posted on 11/20/2009 12:25:59 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: DariusBane

This is a big thread. But in response to #98.....

I, and I suspect many others, have loathed to consider outright conspiracy, especially on such a grand level. I have always suspected that there were many in the know that were absolute opportunists and likely fudged data to fool the rest. But if (and I hope it is) this is true, it suggests the very foundation of Man Made Global Warming is bunk. But what is worse and where the monstrocity of the biggest conspiracy of all time is most flagrant is that, the folks at the top knew early on that their data was BS and they pressed the issue to new heights and levels for 20 years.


203 posted on 11/20/2009 12:32:27 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: jsh3180

just a bookmark.


204 posted on 11/20/2009 12:34:11 PM PST by Famishus (North of the equator, the Death Spiral is clockwise.)
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To: DariusBane; jsh3180
For me as a lay person my skepticism was based on historical accounts that in the past Europe had been colder and Europe had been warmer.

Two of my favorites (from Discovery Channel or similar, no less) are the ice core samples from the Arctic that show plant and flower growth eons ago and the explanation that melting glaciers are responsible for the Great Lakes and the terrain of the Eastern Seaboard. Their own science proves that, not only was the Earth much, much cooler in the past (like, maybe, an "Ice Age" or two...), but that it has also been warm enough to melt all the ice in the Arctic and grow flowers! How in the world they expect us to believe a few degrees of difference here or there is significant in the great scheme of things is an abomination. Blaming in on the exceptionally short period of industrialization is an outrage.

205 posted on 11/20/2009 12:38:34 PM PST by GizmosAndGadgets (That given freely is charity; Taken by force, theft; Stolen by the government, tyranny.)
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To: Tenacious 1

WE DIDN'T LISTEN!

206 posted on 11/20/2009 12:43:45 PM PST by txroadkill (Sarah Palin- The "Gipper" is back)
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To: All

The archived emails in clickable links!

http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?page=43&pp=25


207 posted on 11/20/2009 12:44:19 PM PST by winoneforthegipper (I will follow the "True North-star" and that's, Sarah!)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Ooops here is the correct address, previous one was to a single email string!

http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/


208 posted on 11/20/2009 12:49:07 PM PST by winoneforthegipper (I will follow the "True North-star" and that's, Sarah!)
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To: jsh3180; All

Genesis 11 teaches us that whenever man becomes arrogant and tries to elevate ourselves above God or tries to deny him as the ultimate creator God will knock us down. This has been coming for a long time, get the popcorn ready, God always puts on a good show.


209 posted on 11/20/2009 12:57:48 PM PST by txroadkill (Sarah Palin- The "Gipper" is back)
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To: SteamShovel

Another interesting note:

The e-mails are going to be the first to show up, but a large portion appears to be modeling software parametric data.

Now, THAT’s gonna be an interesting set of data to mess with...


210 posted on 11/20/2009 1:13:16 PM PST by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: 444Flyer
Got a thread started on that :

Copenhagen – how the Danes will salvage a deal ( more on the Global Warming Hoax )

211 posted on 11/20/2009 1:14:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: BP2; backhoe
OH MAN....you pull those together?

>>>>NICE WORK

212 posted on 11/20/2009 1:17:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Man that is powerful...needs it’s own thread....may I?


213 posted on 11/20/2009 1:22:21 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: txroadkill

Just ask the prophets of Baal!


214 posted on 11/20/2009 1:37:30 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (FreepMail me if you want on the Bourbon ping list!)
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To: txroadkill
Genesis 11 teaches us that whenever man becomes arrogant and tries to elevate ourselves above God or tries to deny him as the ultimate creator God will knock us down. This has been coming for a long time, get the popcorn ready, God always puts on a good show.

Or those Chiffon margarine commercials [youtube sample] from 3 decades ago: "It's not nice to fool Mother Nature!"
215 posted on 11/20/2009 1:42:19 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks. Looking now.


216 posted on 11/20/2009 1:50:26 PM PST by 444Flyer (We will not stand down! Psalm 34:7)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

I love trees.

I love animals.

I love the oceans.

I love nature.


But I f*cking hate Global Warming scammer scumbag LIARS
who are distorting data to keep the money flowing into their fat wallets!


217 posted on 11/20/2009 1:55:40 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: GizmosAndGadgets

That and the flash frozen woolly mammoths, the little ice age, and the very warm Europe reported during the emergence of the modern world. So this globull warming thing is intentional deception and that is what makes me made. I’m forty and I remember in order the following deceptions starting in elementry school:

1. The emerging ice age.
2. The population bomb.
3. Energy crises that said I wouldn’t be driving a petroleum fueled car.
4. Ozone Depletion (what the hell happened to that crises?)
5. Y2K
6. Globull Warming.

That list does not even include the proposition that I was to be raptured and never see high school.

So here we live in the new modern rational age and I can come up with 6 very nasty catastrophic fear mongering certainties that I was taught as a kid and as an adult. Then add the rapture as frosting on the cynical cake. (Im not saying rapture will never happen but come on! I was just a kid!)


218 posted on 11/20/2009 2:08:16 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: jsh3180

5 P.M. Friday : I just checked the ABC, MSNBC, CBS, and CNN News sites — none of them have one word on this story. FoxNews has it as their lead.


219 posted on 11/20/2009 2:08:50 PM PST by ZGuy
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To: Leisler

>>This is to Climate what Bellesiles fraud in his Arming America was to gun history.

Man, that would be great! That was quite an interesting debacle for the liars of academe.


220 posted on 11/20/2009 2:19:22 PM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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