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Breaking News Story: CRU has apparently been hacked – hundreds of files released
Watts Up With That? ^ | 19/11/2009 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 11/20/2009 1:39:35 AM PST by jsh3180

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To: DariusBane

List update:

In the 70s, it was global cooling. We were all going to freeze to death. The temps didn’t cooperate, so a couple of decades later, it became global warming. The temps didn’t cooperate, so more recently, it has become global climate change.

Ironically, we’ve had climate change every year since the globe started spinning. We used to call those changes: Spring, Summer, Autumn, and Winter, and they happened every year. Some years were more severe than others; some years were more mild than others.


221 posted on 11/20/2009 2:25:13 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Be my guest!

I so do agree.


222 posted on 11/20/2009 2:34:08 PM PST by winoneforthegipper (I will follow the "True North-star" and that's, Sarah!)
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To: BP2
LOL!

Man that is beautiful!

223 posted on 11/20/2009 2:34:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: winoneforthegipper

OK,...I have some ideas and that is really worthwhile doing.


224 posted on 11/20/2009 2:35:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: bluescape
NY Times covers it as of 17 minutes ago:
Some skeptics asserted Friday that the correspondence showed a effort to withhold scientific information. “This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud,” said Patrick J. Michaels, a climatologist who has long faulted evidence pointing to human-driven warming and is criticized in the documents.

225 posted on 11/20/2009 2:54:20 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Saw this at:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/hadley_hacked/

From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann@XXXX, mhughes@XXXX
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@XXX.osborn@XXXX

Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,

Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow.

I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.

Thanks for the comments, Ray.

Cheers
Phil

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone XXXX
School of Environmental Sciences Fax XXXX
University of East Anglia
Norwich


226 posted on 11/20/2009 3:06:53 PM PST by Signalman
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To: jsh3180
Here's a nice little snippet:

"Mathematica" first plots out the data itself (see Atachment 1)

The first part of the instruction set lets "mathematica" do a Fourier Transform on the data, ie. searching out the periodicities, if there are any. The result is shown on Attachment 2.

The transform result shows a sharp spike at the 11 year point (I wonder what is significant about 11 years?). The second part of the instructions now acts upon this observed spike (the Cos 11 bit), to extract it's waveform from the rest of the noise. The result is shown as a waveform in attachment 3, the waves having an 11-year period, with the long-term Sydney warming easily evident.

Attachment 4 shows the original Sydney data overlaid against the 11-year periodicity.

It would appear that the solar cycle does indeed affect temperature.

Link: http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?page=1&pp=25

227 posted on 11/20/2009 3:29:15 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: jsh3180; bray; Danae

It looks like Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in WA doing the Hansford cleanup is involved.

Considering how much $$$$$$$ was poured into the Hansford cleanup, its not too surprising.


228 posted on 11/20/2009 3:40:30 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Cementjungle

Remarkable, it’s the Sun, I reached the same conclusion. We didn’t need to do the Global Warming Nonsense afterall!


229 posted on 11/20/2009 3:47:12 PM PST by STD (FReep away)
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To: PapaBear3625
The NYT is indeed covering the story but with predictable embed of editorialization ...

The documents will undoubtedly raise questions about the quality of research on some specific questions and the actions of some scientists. But the evidence pointing to a growing human contribution to global warming is so broad and deep that the hacked material is unlikely to erode the overall argument.

230 posted on 11/20/2009 4:11:47 PM PST by dodger
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To: dodger
The NYT is indeed covering the story but with predictable embed of editorialization ...

The NYT author, Revkin, fails to disclose that he has been working closely with the researchers, and EMAILS BETWEEN HIM AND THEM ARE IN THE RELEASED DOCUMENTS.

231 posted on 11/20/2009 4:21:24 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud,”


232 posted on 11/20/2009 4:25:27 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: backhoe

bump


233 posted on 11/20/2009 4:33:09 PM PST by 4horses+amule
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To: DariusBane
I remember in order the following deceptions starting in elementry school:

1. The emerging ice age.
2. The population bomb.
3. Energy crises that said I wouldn’t be driving a petroleum fueled car.
4. Ozone Depletion (what the hell happened to that crises?)
5. Y2K
6. Globull Warming.


I'll add to that list with "acid rain". Whatever happened to the threat that toxic water from the sky was going to eat leaves off of trees, peel paint from cars and generally erode the landscape of the USA?????

As for the Rapture, I'm ready (and waiting... sometimes even praying for it to come soon, like, before the next round of bills are due....)
234 posted on 11/20/2009 4:33:09 PM PST by GizmosAndGadgets (That given freely is charity; Taken by force, theft; Stolen by the government, tyranny.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Before logging into FR I today I had spent time at a few climate sites, climatedepot.com for instance and had become aware of the CRU issue.
As far as Sorus goes, obviously he could make huge amounts of money on carbon reduction technologies as well as feel real smug about further screwing the western industrial nations.
235 posted on 11/20/2009 5:01:00 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle
Obama ties in also...I think....see this thread:

Obama Years Ago Helped Fund Carbon Program He Is Now Pushing Through Congress ( Cap & Tax )

236 posted on 11/20/2009 5:08:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: BP2

BTTT


237 posted on 11/20/2009 5:30:05 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: BP2

Bump


238 posted on 11/20/2009 5:30:33 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: PapaBear3625
The NYT author, Revkin, fails to disclose that he has been working closely with the researchers, and EMAILS BETWEEN HIM AND THEM ARE IN THE RELEASED DOCUMENTS

You're kidding, right? I hope you're not, but I suspect you are.

239 posted on 11/20/2009 5:36:50 PM PST by cantfindagoodscreenname (One man's tingle is another man's chill...)
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To: jsh3180

Please oh PLEASE let this HIT THE FAN and be totally VIRAL before the Lyin’ King goes to Copanhagan for that Horrible Climate debt Debacle!!!!!!!


240 posted on 11/20/2009 5:38:45 PM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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