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From: Keith Briffa To: Tim Osborn ,Clare Goodess , Phil Jones ,"Douglas Maraun" , "Janice Darch" Subject: Re: potential DfID funding for climate centre Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:33:01 +0100 have not been approached - but I think it really does sound like the sort of initiative CRU/ENV are looking for. I get the feeling this is the sort of potential contact ENV would wish to take over. Keith At 11:31 13/10/2008, Tim Osborn wrote: >Hi CRU Board, > >I just had an interesting chat with Jack Newnham >from the International Development Team at Price >Waterhouse Cooper. They get lots of DfID >(Douglas: DfID is the UK Government Department >for International Development) funding. > >They've heard that DfID are likely to call for >expressions of interest for a new centre >focussing on international climate >change. Their idea is to fund a centre that >would be the first point of call for advice and >for commissioning research related to climate >change and development or to climate change in countries where DfID operate. > >He was talking about £15 million per year for 5 >years! Not sure how much would be from DfID and >how much raised from other donors (and hence >uncertain), nor how much would be given up-front >versus how much spent later on specific research >projects organised via this centre. > >Nevertheless, sounds big enough to be worth getting involved in. > >He was clearly just testing the water with us, >so not sure that they definitely wish to involve >us. He may want to meet to talk through things, >if they decide to ask us to join their >proposal. He said he'd email me later -- I'll >forward this when it arrives. They're also >contacting the Tyndall Centre, and no doubt a number of other institutes. > >Has anyone else in CRU been approached? > >Presumably, if this call for tenders is actually >issued, this is likely to interest Tyndall >greatly. But CRU can offer a significant >contribution -- especially data and scenarios >developed for specific (developing) countries -- >and this should be seen as independent from >Tyndall rather than part of Tyndall >contribution. There's also Declan/DEV, so UEA as a whole has much to offer. > >Any thoughts on this? > >Tim > > > > >Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow >Climatic Research Unit >School of Environmental Sciences >University of East Anglia >Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK > >e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk >phone: +44 1603 592089 >fax: +44 1603 507784 >web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ >sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm > -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
30 posted on 11/20/2009 10:15:17 AM PST by milwguy
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Seems the climate 'scientists' were more interested in getting $ than actually doing science..........From: Keith Briffa To: Tim Osborn ,Clare Goodess , Phil Jones ,"Douglas Maraun" , "Janice Darch" Subject: Re: potential DfID funding for climate centre Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:33:01 +0100 have not been approached - but I think it really does sound like the sort of initiative CRU/ENV are looking for. I get the feeling this is the sort of potential contact ENV would wish to take over. Keith At 11:31 13/10/2008, Tim Osborn wrote: >Hi CRU Board, > >I just had an interesting chat with Jack Newnham >from the International Development Team at Price >Waterhouse Cooper. They get lots of DfID >(Douglas: DfID is the UK Government Department >for International Development) funding. > >They've heard that DfID are likely to call for >expressions of interest for a new centre >focussing on international climate >change. Their idea is to fund a centre that >would be the first point of call for advice and >for commissioning research related to climate >change and development or to climate change in countries where DfID operate. > >He was talking about £15 million per year for 5 >years! Not sure how much would be from DfID and >how much raised from other donors (and hence >uncertain), nor how much would be given up-front >versus how much spent later on specific research >projects organised via this centre. > >Nevertheless, sounds big enough to be worth getting involved in. > >He was clearly just testing the water with us, >so not sure that they definitely wish to involve >us. He may want to meet to talk through things, >if they decide to ask us to join their >proposal. He said he'd email me later -- I'll >forward this when it arrives. They're also >contacting the Tyndall Centre, and no doubt a number of other institutes. > >Has anyone else in CRU been approached? > >Presumably, if this call for tenders is actually >issued, this is likely to interest Tyndall >greatly. But CRU can offer a significant >contribution -- especially data and scenarios >developed for specific (developing) countries -- >and this should be seen as independent from >Tyndall rather than part of Tyndall >contribution. There's also Declan/DEV, so UEA as a whole has much to offer. > >Any thoughts on this? > >Tim > > > > >Dr Timothy J Osborn, Academic Fellow >Climatic Research Unit >School of Environmental Sciences >University of East Anglia >Norwich NR4 7TJ, UK > >e-mail: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk >phone: +44 1603 592089 >fax: +44 1603 507784 >web: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/ >sunclock: http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~timo/sunclock.htm > -- Professor Keith Briffa, Climatic Research Unit University of East Anglia Norwich, NR4 7TJ, U.K. Phone: +44-1603-593909 Fax: +44-1603-507784 http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/briffa/
31 posted on 11/20/2009 10:16:59 AM PST by milwguy
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makes some difference as most of the missing areas are in the SH, and currently the NH
is warmer than the SH with respect to 1961-90. Our rationale for doing what we do is that
it is better to estimate the missing areas of the SH (which we do by tacitly assuming they
are the average of the rest of the SH) from the rest of the SH as opposed to the rest of
the world.


34 posted on 11/20/2009 10:19:27 AM PST by milwguy
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