[markomalley]

Gee...I guess somebody is a little upset.

[rightwingextremist1776]

Screw them.....bastards. I hope this brings to whole scam to light. The we can prosecute the bastards for fraud.

[Crim]

Once again...the “so what” defense...

[icwhatudo]

no evidence of the falsifying of data???

The email states to hide the decline!

[paulcissa]

Some one in the IT industry should have told these "big-brains" that NOTHING is secure once it leaves the keyboard.

Seems like the spin must begin now that the ass has been bared.

[eeevil conservative]

let the hacking begin.....

[Brett66]

There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords

Hiding or altering data is not an admission of the hoax, it is a propagation of a hoax.

[JPG]

They do protest too much. The fact remains that for at least the last 12 years the Earth HAS NOT warmed. Yet the SRM continues day after day with OMG scenarios. AGW is a pile of steaming Gore/Reid/Boxer...too many climate “scientists” are just in it for the money, and they merrily travel down the road to their socialist utopia. The time has come to stop their madness NOW!!

[DManA]

Wrong, the whole dump is out on the net.

(a presumably careful selection of (possibly edited?)

[jim_trent]

I have to admit, this is good spin, but awfully thin. By answering in this way, they admit they are real. The onus is on them now if they claim any individual e-mail has been edited. Prove it.

[Secret Agent Man]

We’ll deal with the ethics of the hacker AFTER we deal with the ethics (or lack of depending on your POV) of these people who are deliberately lying to people and governments that use such info to set massive controlling policies across entire countries. And cost people billions for NOTHING. And allowed YOU FAKE F#$#S to FIRE, and destroy the careers of GENUINE SCIENTISTS who opposed this collaborated effort of yours, and call people who didn’t SWALLOW YOUR LIES “Global Warming Deniers” - trying to smear them akin to “Holocaust Deniers” and even trying to make it criminal to oppose global warming. Oh and when the lie was wearing thin, swithcing it to “Climate Change”. and still defending the lies and coverups and firings of opponents and demonizing anyone else opposed to this false agenda.

In short, you liars aren’t in ANY position to bitch about the hacker’s ethics until we deal with YOUR MASSIVE ETHICAL SCHEMES AND COVERUPS AND SHAMS AND PROPAGANDA.

[BillCompton]

They are really in an untenable situation. This response is spin control for willing accomplices in MSM.

The real problem they face is that this leak represents a huge amount of factual data delivered into the hands of Steve McKintyre. He will read through this stuff page by page and relentlessly pursue the information. The "team" has been stonewalling him for years and suddenly a tunnel has been revealed and McKintyre is flanking them.

The data is important.
The code is very important.
The emails and what they reveal about the FOI requests is crucial.
The interactions between the scientists is important.

Let all the sun in.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Flim Flam Man speaketh.

[maggief]

Who you gonna believe, your bleeding liberal heart or your lying eyes?

;)

[DouglasKC]

Scientists often use the term “trick” to refer to a “a good way to deal with a problem”, rather than something that is “secret”, and so there is nothing problematic in this at all.

lol....

Trick:

"a cunning or deceitful action or device; "he played a trick on me"; "he pulled a fast one and got away with it"

"Something designed to fool or swindle; "

"flim-flam: deceive somebody; "We tricked the teacher into thinking that class would be cancelled next week""

[-YYZ-]

“Gravity isn’t a useful theory because Newton was a nice person. QED isn’t powerful because Feynman was respectful of other people around him.”

When climatologist’s theories and models make predictions that are confirmed (almost perfectly) by observation as Newton’s laws (Laws!) of motion and gravity, or Feynman’s quantum elctrodynamics, I’ll start taking warning of global warming seriously. As it is, none of them, or their models, predicted the period of slightly declining temperatures of the last decade or so. Obviously there are some factors that their models don’t take into account, or give appropriate weight to - assuming there is any validity in them at all As it is, there is no reason at all to believe their predictions of future temperature increases.

[Redleg Duke]

I hear the sounds of cat’s paws on the tin roof, attempting to cover it’s poop.

[Oldpuppymax]

Sounds like the author is claiming that he “did not have sex with that woman!”

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

Thursday, November 19, 2009

The Blue-Dress Moment May Have Arrived   [Chris Horner]

I am not able to fully digest this at present, catching up with the boys from days away and then up at O-Dark-Thirty for a flight to California for a talk, but check out what Anthony Watts among others have posted.

Now, none of us can attest to the validity of what has been posted on a Russian server (nor can we even be sure of how it was obtained, though it purports to be non-classified data held by a purely public agency subject to freedom of information/transparency laws). But I'm told it's almost 61 megabytes of files, and after a few days of scrutiny appears (to the kind of people who would know) to be legitimate. And very revealing, both the data and what are represented to be comments and admissions by leading lights on Team Alarmist.

If legit, this apparently devastating series of revelations will be very hard for the media to ignore. I didn't say impossible — they're fully vested partners in the global warming industry, because catastrophism sells. But so does scandal, and this appears to be the makings of a very big one. Imagine this sort of news coming in the field of AIDS research. Then reflect that the taxpayer spends more on climate-related research than on the entire suite of AIDS programs, far beyond drug research.

11/19 06:00 PMShare

[Tzimisce]

Yeah, but I think there is enough fishy stuff for people to call for a deeper investigation.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

There is a threat to the free flow of funds....

If we can kill Cap and Trade legislation we will have done something that is likely a bigger TAX than Obamacare....

Everyone needs to know about this development.....

Taking advantage of lists I built and used on the Fort Hood Jihad Attack.....