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Climategate: how the MSM reported the greatest scandal in modern science
Telegraph UK ^ | Nov 21, 2009 | James Delingpole

Posted on 11/21/2009 5:31:48 AM PST by PapaBear3625

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To: penelopesire

“Whoever hacked into these fraudster’s emails should be given the Nobel Peace Prize for helping to save the planet from the global marxists!”

Nah, the Peace Prize is tainted.

I’d vote for the Freedom Medal. =:-D


61 posted on 11/21/2009 6:33:38 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: penelopesire

Maybe we need a “Palin Peace Prize.”

:)


62 posted on 11/21/2009 6:33:43 AM PST by maggief
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To: PapaBear3625

It wasn’t just that they reported what they were told. They want to believe. Socialism is the ruling paradigm among all teachers and reporters really are teachers.


63 posted on 11/21/2009 6:36:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

It’s amazing that you can pinpoint the day Newt’s testosterone ran out and he was bested by a superior woman.


64 posted on 11/21/2009 6:36:40 AM PST by Stentor
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To: PreciousLiberty
Fifty years ago I would have agreed with you. Today the "scientific community" is a fiction, a defanged bunch who are largely intimidated by university faculty promotion and tenure committees. They are beholden to grant-making foundations and institutions, led by government funding agencies, most of which are corrupted by the leftwing extremists among them.

Notwithstanding the courageous truthtellers we do have, the fact is that if the "scientific community" couldn't even mount a campaign of truth aganst the likes of Algore, they won't rise up en mass now.

65 posted on 11/21/2009 6:38:01 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: PapaBear3625
In case anybody is interested in how this is all playing out over at DU I suggest reading what a DU poster who calls himself "notedev" has to say on the subject. He has an excellent grasp of the subject, is a true blue climate change skeptic and an amazingly good writer. Very unusual to see the sort of discussion he is involved with on DU and amazing to me that he has not been banned. Here is a snippet of one of his comments to the his fellow dumbos:

"My friend, the sky is not falling. Climate change is perfectly natural and has gone on since the earth formed from protoplanetary mass, and that change is driven by the sun, something we can do nothing about. Global warming is a complete and total fraud. One day the sun will obliterate our planet, but that will not come within your lifetime or the lifetime of anyone a hundred thousand generations hence. It is only the extreme comfort in which we live today that even gives us the luxury to fret over these things."

For more, go to the DU website and do search on "notesdev"

66 posted on 11/21/2009 6:38:23 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Bulwinkle
Aha, Gene Wahl. For context, he used to work for NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric Research) in the Environmental and Societal Impacts Group. I wonder if this is what they mean by "his new address", i.e at NOAA. Would have to check the dates.

ON AR4. Some context for FReepers: this mysterious "AR4" is nothing other than "Climate Change 2007", the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

And I quote from Wiki:

"AR4 is the fourth in a series of reports intended to assess scientific, technical and socio-economic information concerning climate change, its potential effects, and options for adaptation and mitigation."

Bascially AR4 directly or potentially effects everyone on the planet. It has summary documents for 'policy makers'. And emails about it from some of the main contributors to AR4 were expunged under the pressure of possible future FOIA requests.

67 posted on 11/21/2009 6:38:37 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Bulwinkle
You can delete this attachment if you want. Keep this quiet also, but this is the person who is putting in FOI requests for all emails Keith and Tim have written and received re Ch 6 of AR4. We think we've found a way around this.

There is definitely some sort of conspiracy, collusion, and evasion going on here.....

....."in-context" OR "out of context"

68 posted on 11/21/2009 6:39:10 AM PST by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

69 posted on 11/21/2009 6:39:32 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Notwithstanding the courageous truthtellers we do have, the fact is that if the “scientific community” couldn’t even mount a campaign of truth aganst the likes of Algore, they won’t rise up en mass now.”

Many already have, but they were up against both the media and the government. With only a tiny fraction of the resources, it was easy to ignore or discount them.

This scandal will quite turn the tables. In addition, there was recent research published that definitively discredited the computer models used to promote CAGW.

I think I hear the fat lady warming up her voice in the distance... ;-)


70 posted on 11/21/2009 6:42:34 AM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Melchior
You ommitted the clown who runs the tree ring circus at the University of Arizona

LOL! Please..."Dendrochronology Lab." I like your name better. Cherry picked about a dozen trees out of thousands to produce "data" to support the GW hoax.

71 posted on 11/21/2009 6:44:06 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: DannyTN

And that’s why they hate the web. Too messy. Some member of the smart set needs to sort all this out for us and tell us what to think about it.

Think of Andrea Mitchell’s face as she confronted Palin. That’s how they feel about people in general.


72 posted on 11/21/2009 6:45:17 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: screaminsunshine

Our SSN numbers are now prisoner numbers.

The Constitution is now relic of the past, when American men were free and governed by an American born citizen.


73 posted on 11/21/2009 6:46:14 AM PST by PA-RIVER (Don't blame me. I voted for the American guy.)
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To: DannyTN
The failure to report is just going to help confirm to people the irrelevancy and the partisanship and bias of the MSM.

You've nailed it.

This is a "lose-lose" situation for the MSM.

If they don't report it, it speaks volumes about how they censor the news to match their ideology.

If they do report it, it will be an obvious about face on all their previous coverage.

They will probably end up reporting it, but only after suffering the damage...the worst of both worlds for them.

74 posted on 11/21/2009 6:48:49 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: PapaBear3625; All

I know this post is long, but please bear with me.

When I got up this morning, went to the following web sites:

CNN
Washington Post
Boston Globe
Boston Herald
New York Times
LA Times
Wall Street Journal
Arizona Star
San Francisco Chronicle
Denver Post
Miami Herald
Chicago Sun-Times
Kansas City Star
Seattle Times
Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Drudge
MSNBC
ABC News
CBS News

At each website, I did a search for the following words, each search done independently as a single word: CLIMATE, GLOBAL, WARM, HOAX, EMAIL, HACK.

Of all the websites there were no relevant hits at all except for TWO sites. One was Drudge, and the other was the New York Times, which had a surprisingly balanced article.

Folks, I think this is one of the most significant stories to see the light of day in our lives.

Some may think that is hyperbole, but the fact is, those pushing climate legislation are depending on this “science” to bolster their arguments and garner public support.

They teach it in colleges and ridicule any student or colleague who disagrees.

They brainwash little kids and high schoolers with it, the little kids weep for the poor polar bears stranded on ice floes, and the High School valedictorians speak about how it is the most important thing in their future.

Politicians base their campaigns on it, an nearly all politicians, even staunch conservatives (whoever they are) feel the need to genuflect at the altar of Global Warming during campaigns and legislative sessions, lest they be labeled a global warming “hater” or “denier”.

Climate legislation is being pushed by the UN and many others around the globe, and the endgame of these movements is global legislation, loss of sovereignty, and taxes or sanctions on those who don’t comply.

This legislation, not only our “Cap and Trade” but all other variants of it that you see anywhere else in the world, has the capability to reach down into the very basic fabric of our lives. Energy is going to stop being a commodity that can be produced, bought, sold and traded and profited from, to something that is going to be used as a tool to control the economic engines of countries around the world as a governor to equalize consumption and “opportunity”.

To illustrate this, legislation won’t be applied equally. Some countries such as the USA, Canada, Japan and Western Europe will be held to legislation, while other countries such as China, India and a host of third world countries will not.

This is not meant to allow third world or other developing countries to “catch up”. This is meant to slow countries like the USA down.

Where have we heard that “we have X amount of the world’s population, but use Y amount of the world’s energy”? Sound familiar to anyone? They are going to use this to hold countries like the USA to a quota, that is, “you have this percent of the world’s population, you can use this much of the world’s energy.”

But I assure you, it won’t stop there. First it is energy, then it will be water. Then things like iron ore, titanium. And it will end up with food.

And when it ends up with food, as it surely will over time, then where will we be? As my tagline notes, we will be down the Road to Serfdom. The key issue here is going to be a loss of sovereignty. And if we give it up piecemeal, one day we will wake up to discover there is nothing that separates us from tyrants in other parts of the world who wish only to dominate and control.

Our Constitution won’t separate us.

Our government won’t separate us.

Our way of life won’t separate us.

Two oceans won’t separate us.

So I don’t think I am being melodramatic here. And to get back to my main point: Only ONE media entity “of note” covered this on the main page of their web site: The New York Times. Only one. And Drudge had a little blurb on it.

Is is just me, or does anyone else think there is something wrong with this situation?


75 posted on 11/21/2009 6:48:51 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Seconded. “Tree Ring Circus” is awesome, even Steynian.


76 posted on 11/21/2009 6:49:59 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: PA-RIVER
Our SSN numbers are now prisoner numbers.

That's definitely one way to look at it.

If they eventually put the number on a chip and implant it for "National ID" in the name of universal healthcare records access.....

.....How would it be any different than the Jewish prisoner number tattooed on their arms by the Nazi's?

77 posted on 11/21/2009 6:50:59 AM PST by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: agere_contra

Here’s a link to another site where I was able to post the eamil...

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78 posted on 11/21/2009 6:54:48 AM PST by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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To: Mobties

Does this mean the polar bears (and walruses) aren’t all going to die unless I send all my money to WWF?

sarcasm/off
__________________________________________________________

I’m still worried about those polar bears clinging on to shards of ice because they can’t swim and stuff. /s

LOL!


79 posted on 11/21/2009 6:54:48 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: rlmorel
those pushing climate legislation are depending on this “science” to bolster their arguments

Exactly.

The conclusion preceded the research.

80 posted on 11/21/2009 6:55:49 AM PST by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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