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Former Indian Law Minister asks if Allah is a brothel keeper(72 Virgins for Jihadis)
SIFY NEWS ^ | 21st November 2009

Posted on 11/21/2009 8:49:06 AM PST by cold start

New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference.

Addressing the seminar, Jethmalani wondered if the jehadi doctrine, propagating the belief allegedly held by Islam's Wahab sect that Muslims attaining martyrdom while fighting non-Muslims "get a place in heaven and the company of the opposite sex there", does not amount to saying that "god is a brothel keeper".

The self-confessed maverick legal hawk also went on to equate god as someone "suffering with Alzheimer's disease", while advising the Indian government and the international community against trusting god in fighting terrorism.

"He will not help as he is suffering with Alzheimer's disease," said Jethmalani, while advising the government to junk its obsession with "an irrelevant non-aligned movement" and "join the forces of good to fight forces of evil".

Jethmalani made "the non-mincing" remarks at an international conference of jurists on terrorism, inaugurated by President Pratibha Patil and attended among others by Singapore Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong and Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh of the International Court of Justice and envoys of several countries.

Jethmalani's remarks caused Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to India Faisal-al-Trad to walk out, while an embarrassed union Law Minister M. Veerappa Moily swiftly sought to distance himself and the government from the controversial remarks.

Justice Khasawneh contradicted Jethmalani on some facts referred to by him on the jehadi doctrine.

Jethmalani made the remark while dwelling upon the need to fight terrorism also at its ideological level.

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"I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace," said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.

"But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran," said Jethmalani.

"I have read that shora thousands of times, but I have not found anything wrong in it. But, according to Wahab, all other people, including Christians, Jews and Hindus, and even Shias, have forfeited their rights to live," said Jethmalani.

Following Jethmalani's speech, Saudi Arabia's Ambassador Faisal-al-Trad was seen walking out of the conference, apparently taking offence at the remarks.

Organiser of the event Adesh Aggarwala said the ambassador had walked out but returned after Moily's statement that the views expressed by Jethmalani were not that of the government.

Moily, in his address, said that terrorism cannot be attributed to any particular religion.

It was unfortunate that the entire Islam as a religion was being blamed for terrorism, Jethmalani said, adding that "there are also Hindu terrorists and Buddhist terrorists".

Terming the Non-Aligned Movement and Panchsheel as evil, Jethmalani said "India should align with forces of good to combat the forces of evil. India and its foreign ministers must learn to reassess the doctrines of past".

He said India's foreign policy establishment should be courageous to shun any relationship with the country's 'enemies'.

Referring to Jethmalani's comments, Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh, a judge of the International Court of Justice, asked him not "to make sweeping statements". He also said that the Wahab movement had started in the 18th century and not in 17th century as Jethmalani had remarked.


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1 posted on 11/21/2009 8:49:07 AM PST by cold start
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To: cold start

LOL smackin the hornet’s nest with a baseball bat.


2 posted on 11/21/2009 8:51:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cold start

The real question is, what does this belief say about the fate of Muslim women who die virgins? Are they condemned to an eternity of sexually servicing dismembered (haha) suicide terrorists?

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 11/21/2009 8:52:00 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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To: cold start

He was a few grapes short of a box of raisins.


4 posted on 11/21/2009 8:53:32 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: cold start

After thousands of years of brutal warfare, most of the world’s religions have come to a peaceful co-existence among themselves, which permits nonviolent theological debate, and good natured ribbing. The only exception is Islam. Islam seems to be at war with every other religion it has encountered, even other versions of itself.


5 posted on 11/21/2009 8:56:04 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: cold start
New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference.

Can I nominate Ram Jetmalani for the Nobel Peace Prize? He certainly deserves it more than the current laureate.

6 posted on 11/21/2009 8:57:03 AM PST by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: cold start

Pardise for muslims is sex w/ virgins — a very worldly view.


Jesus: “I am not of this world.”

Islam has so many holes in it. They keep their believers ignorant.


7 posted on 11/21/2009 8:57:19 AM PST by boycott
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To: Daveinyork
which permits nonviolent theological debate, and good natured ribbing.

My granddad used to say that we methodists are just baptists who where shoes.

Somehow I doubt the muslim version would go over too well. Something like "Sunis are just shia who herd goats with a condom".
8 posted on 11/21/2009 8:59:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cold start

Off with the infidel’s head!


9 posted on 11/21/2009 9:01:56 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: bgill

right on!!!

every jihadist is promised 72 virgins and a most erotic eternity with Allah and the girls... with allah being gateman of the hore house in the sky. Only one problem it costs you your life and soul to enter and meet allah the great hoe meister....
more and more, he sounds like the devil

how can you say thats a short of box of raisins?


10 posted on 11/21/2009 9:02:32 AM PST by himno hero
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To: stephenjohnbanker; FBD; Liz
"New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference."

Envision a smallish dark complected man wearing a Fez type hat saying this to a group of muzzy fanatics. Close your eyes.

teheteheeeBWWWHAAAAAA!! LOL!!

11 posted on 11/21/2009 9:03:18 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: reg45

Good for him. More honesty about Islam is exactly what is needed.

I look forward to the throngs of self-emasculating Musims in the street.


12 posted on 11/21/2009 9:05:38 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Landru

72 Helen Thomas clones await the faithful ;-)


13 posted on 11/21/2009 9:05:48 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: cripplecreek

More than 13 years ago the Hindus were first on the internet giving the real lowdown on Islam and their pedophile prophet’s marriage to six year old Aisha.

Google -— Islam’s x rated paradise — A real classic by the Hindus
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html


14 posted on 11/21/2009 9:06:29 AM PST by dennisw (Obama -- our very own loopy, leftist god-thing.)
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To: cripplecreek

“Sunis are just shia who herd goats with a condom”.
lol. You had better watch out. That kind of joke is a fatwa offense to a Muslim.


15 posted on 11/21/2009 9:06:30 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: cold start
a place in heaven and the company of the opposite sex there

Technically incorrect. The 72 virgins are not "the opposite sex" because they are not human. They are houris, spirit creatures in the shape of beautiful women, designed by Allah to please men who make it to heaven.

As I understand it, the Koran is vague on the reward of righteous Muslim women after death.

16 posted on 11/21/2009 9:08:18 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: cold start
On 11/2/07 I said:

"Islamokazes skulk around in mufti, and target unarmed and unsuspecting women and children, in the hopes of getting an admission ticket to their pig-dog-god’s whorehouse in the sky. They are lower that the meanest cockroach."

Nice to hear that the truth is getting out there....

17 posted on 11/21/2009 9:09:17 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 304 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“72 Helen Thomas clones await the faithful ;-)”

How can she not be a virgin?


18 posted on 11/21/2009 9:09:22 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: cold start
Oh no he din’t!
19 posted on 11/21/2009 9:09:35 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: cold start

“I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace,” said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.

“But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran,” said Jethmalani.

Obviously, Jethalani has no handle on Islams history of violence and aggressive violent expansion. It goes straight to mohammed back at the 7th century.

How else did they conquer all of the lands around the mediteraenean? It was the devil and his minion Jihadists, every last one of them.


20 posted on 11/21/2009 9:10:29 AM PST by himno hero
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To: Sherman Logan

Did you forget the 18 boys like pearls?


21 posted on 11/21/2009 9:10:55 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 304 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void; dennisw

This is from the link that dennisw provided.

YOUNG BOYS

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get “rewarded” by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.


22 posted on 11/21/2009 9:17:27 AM PST by ansel12 (Scozzafava/Romney 2012)
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To: Daveinyork

Nanny berries are just ball bearings to reduce friction during muslim orgies.


23 posted on 11/21/2009 9:18:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: null and void

Chrissy, the tingle up my leg boy, would make a fine pearl for them.


24 posted on 11/21/2009 9:21:16 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: cripplecreek

A shia is a sunni with a tooth.


25 posted on 11/21/2009 9:25:25 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Sherman Logan
...the Koran is vague on the reward of righteous Muslim women after death.

Interesting. Since jihadi men take to homosexuality like a duck takes to water, a large percentage of righteous Muslim women must, therefore, be virgins. Logically, the virgins that these jihadi fudgepackers encounter in the afterlife are the same virgins they encounter before they die. Get it? A righteous Muslim woman's reward after death is probably a clitoridectomy.

26 posted on 11/21/2009 9:33:17 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: null and void

Stop insulting cockroaches!


27 posted on 11/21/2009 9:35:21 AM PST by Sodbuster09
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To: cold start
Why do you suppose the Arabic word for these virgins of Paradise is “houri”? http://dictionary.die.net/houri

The “w” is silent in English. In Arabic, apparantly, it is excluded altogether.

28 posted on 11/21/2009 9:38:39 AM PST by Mobties
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To: himno hero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD-Nny3EP98

Interview with a terrorist. Believes he’ll get his virgins..


29 posted on 11/21/2009 9:40:35 AM PST by BARLF
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To: cold start

Wouldn’t that make Muhammed a pimp?


30 posted on 11/21/2009 9:41:18 AM PST by Spok (Liberals are living proof that terrorism works.)
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To: cold start

I’ve heard it referred to as “those who believe in heaven as whore house.”


31 posted on 11/21/2009 9:42:51 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: cold start

Achmed triggers his suicide belt, kills himself and six infidel Jews, goes to Muslim paradise and says, “OK, I did it! Where are my virgins?” The sheik in charge of admissions says, “Well, there’s good news and bad news. The good news is, yes, 72 virgins are waiting for you. The bad news is, they are eternally virgins.”


32 posted on 11/21/2009 10:03:05 AM PST by zot
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To: Daveinyork

LOL...I wrote that one down...


33 posted on 11/21/2009 10:28:43 AM PST by PoloSec ( Paul:2Tim2:7Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.)
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To: Spok

Mohammad is a pimp..May PISS be upon mohammeds head...and the long-legged-mac-daddy too.


34 posted on 11/21/2009 10:42:09 AM PST by PoloSec ( Paul:2Tim2:7Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.)
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To: null and void

Nope. I would assume these are also non-human spirit creatures rather than human males.

However, unlike the houris, the Koran does not specifically state these boys are used for sexual purposes.

Conveniently, the Koran does state that the ascended Muslim is provided with a permanent overdose of Viagra to allow him to “perform” at the highest level.


35 posted on 11/21/2009 10:42:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: appalachian_dweller

*ping
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36 posted on 11/21/2009 10:43:13 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: himno hero
“But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran,”

Wahhab was a revivalist. His goal, quite successful in the long run, was to bring about a revival of original Islam, complete with its tradition of jihad against the infidel and the apostate.

37 posted on 11/21/2009 10:46:43 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: cold start

May the Jihadis find it to be a SF Gay Bath House.


38 posted on 11/21/2009 11:03:21 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Sherman Logan

“As I understand it, the Koran is vague on the reward of righteous Muslim women after death.”

I believe mad mo said he looked into hell and saw women there. You know woman are just EVIL creatures!!


39 posted on 11/21/2009 11:04:38 AM PST by Bluebeard16
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To: dennisw

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html

Much thanks. This will make the rounds. And I think I’ll be emailing it to not a few Congress Critters.


40 posted on 11/21/2009 11:04:55 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: bgill

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/brilliant.wav


41 posted on 11/21/2009 11:19:50 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference
Hey, if it's that easy, we'll have CAIR right the hell out of our country in no time. Mohammed was a mass-murdering pedophile!
42 posted on 11/21/2009 11:35:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Sherman Logan
I would assume these are also non-human spirit creatures rather than human males.

Do you mean the ones here or the ones there?

43 posted on 11/21/2009 11:40:22 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 304 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: dennisw
Actually, in the mid-1990s, I saw a discussion on a message board in which some liberal attacked "Hindu fundamentalists." A Canadian responded to this attack by claiming that the hope for this world lay in the so-called Hindu fundamentalists because they were the only people who had not surrendered to the religion of political correctness.

I was intrigued by this remark and started digging into the politics of India. What I found amazed me. Communists and Muslims rule the roost in India despite Hindus being in majority. Even the Sharia law is legal in India and the term "Hindu fundamentalist" or "Hindu nationalist" is the term invented by Western liberals to describe Hindus who demand equal treatment. There are a lot of laws appeasing the Muslims in India and Europe has followed India in this regard. We are now on the same path of destruction. The one difference between us and India is that Hindus do not care for political correctness and they dish it out like it is. Our liberals are the ones who brand them as fascists and fundamentalists.

44 posted on 11/21/2009 11:47:43 AM PST by JimWayne
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To: dennisw

“Mohammed’s promise of an Islamic Paradise that glittered with the fulfillment of all sorts of wordly desires and sense enjoyment was nothing but a sinister ploy to recruit those who had no hope or expectation of ever getting these things in their present lives.” .................................. So I guess they should revise it a little, and add a new car, Wii, 60” projection TV, new video games every year, et.al.. Ya can’t spend all your time on 72 virgins and little boys. Geeeez, Allah could have solved all the sex promises with an “orgazmatron ball”, which would leave time for the 72 virgins to go shopping. Folks as I’ve said over and over again, its not a religious struggle, its mainly a struggle of good vs. evil.


45 posted on 11/21/2009 11:57:09 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Beware of the Palin Tsunami!!!)
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To: cold start

Well, it’s a good question. Where does he get all these virgins? After they’ve been shtupped, are they then passed around to staff officers who died of clap during a Jihad? Is getting shtupped by dead jihadis their hell? Furthermore, wouldn’t doing it with virgins get real dull after a while? Why not someone with a bit of experience, who knows a few tricks, and lost all her inhibitions a while ago? It seems to me that would-be jihadis ought to think this through more thoroughly before strapping on a suicide vest.


46 posted on 11/21/2009 12:28:17 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: cripplecreek

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!


47 posted on 11/21/2009 12:42:05 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Bluebeard16

It says a lot about Arabia and the mistreatment of women back in the 6th century if they, according to Mohammed, mostly went to Hell after death.


48 posted on 11/21/2009 12:46:37 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: cold start
LOL, I see a fatwah in someone's near future.

Next, he needs to ask if any sane person could consider a pedophile serial killer to be a prophet, and if so, a prophet of what sort of deity?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

49 posted on 11/21/2009 12:51:45 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Bluebeard16

Maybe they get serviced by the “boys like pearls,” whenever they aren’t servicing the dead jihadis.


50 posted on 11/21/2009 12:59:49 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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