Posted on 11/21/2009 8:49:06 AM PST by cold start
New Delhi: Former union law minister Ram Jethmalani on Saturday kicked up a row at an international conference on terrorism, asking if Islam's jehadi doctrine does not virtually render 'god a brothel keeper', prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conference.
Addressing the seminar, Jethmalani wondered if the jehadi doctrine, propagating the belief allegedly held by Islam's Wahab sect that Muslims attaining martyrdom while fighting non-Muslims "get a place in heaven and the company of the opposite sex there", does not amount to saying that "god is a brothel keeper".
The self-confessed maverick legal hawk also went on to equate god as someone "suffering with Alzheimer's disease", while advising the Indian government and the international community against trusting god in fighting terrorism.
"He will not help as he is suffering with Alzheimer's disease," said Jethmalani, while advising the government to junk its obsession with "an irrelevant non-aligned movement" and "join the forces of good to fight forces of evil".
Jethmalani made "the non-mincing" remarks at an international conference of jurists on terrorism, inaugurated by President Pratibha Patil and attended among others by Singapore Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong and Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh of the International Court of Justice and envoys of several countries.
Jethmalani's remarks caused Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to India Faisal-al-Trad to walk out, while an embarrassed union Law Minister M. Veerappa Moily swiftly sought to distance himself and the government from the controversial remarks.
Justice Khasawneh contradicted Jethmalani on some facts referred to by him on the jehadi doctrine.
Jethmalani made the remark while dwelling upon the need to fight terrorism also at its ideological level.
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"I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace," said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.
"But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran," said Jethmalani.
"I have read that shora thousands of times, but I have not found anything wrong in it. But, according to Wahab, all other people, including Christians, Jews and Hindus, and even Shias, have forfeited their rights to live," said Jethmalani.
Following Jethmalani's speech, Saudi Arabia's Ambassador Faisal-al-Trad was seen walking out of the conference, apparently taking offence at the remarks.
Organiser of the event Adesh Aggarwala said the ambassador had walked out but returned after Moily's statement that the views expressed by Jethmalani were not that of the government.
Moily, in his address, said that terrorism cannot be attributed to any particular religion.
It was unfortunate that the entire Islam as a religion was being blamed for terrorism, Jethmalani said, adding that "there are also Hindu terrorists and Buddhist terrorists".
Terming the Non-Aligned Movement and Panchsheel as evil, Jethmalani said "India should align with forces of good to combat the forces of evil. India and its foreign ministers must learn to reassess the doctrines of past".
He said India's foreign policy establishment should be courageous to shun any relationship with the country's 'enemies'.
Referring to Jethmalani's comments, Justice Awn S Al-Khasawneh, a judge of the International Court of Justice, asked him not "to make sweeping statements". He also said that the Wahab movement had started in the 18th century and not in 17th century as Jethmalani had remarked.
LOL smackin the hornet’s nest with a baseball bat.
The real question is, what does this belief say about the fate of Muslim women who die virgins? Are they condemned to an eternity of sexually servicing dismembered (haha) suicide terrorists?
SnakeDoc
He was a few grapes short of a box of raisins.
After thousands of years of brutal warfare, most of the world’s religions have come to a peaceful co-existence among themselves, which permits nonviolent theological debate, and good natured ribbing. The only exception is Islam. Islam seems to be at war with every other religion it has encountered, even other versions of itself.
Can I nominate Ram Jetmalani for the Nobel Peace Prize? He certainly deserves it more than the current laureate.
Pardise for muslims is sex w/ virgins — a very worldly view.
Jesus: “I am not of this world.”
Islam has so many holes in it. They keep their believers ignorant.
Off with the infidel’s head!
right on!!!
every jihadist is promised 72 virgins and a most erotic eternity with Allah and the girls... with allah being gateman of the hore house in the sky. Only one problem it costs you your life and soul to enter and meet allah the great hoe meister....
more and more, he sounds like the devil
how can you say thats a short of box of raisins?
Envision a smallish dark complected man wearing a Fez type hat saying this to a group of muzzy fanatics. Close your eyes.
teheteheeeBWWWHAAAAAA!! LOL!!
Good for him. More honesty about Islam is exactly what is needed.
I look forward to the throngs of self-emasculating Musims in the street.
72 Helen Thomas clones await the faithful ;-)
More than 13 years ago the Hindus were first on the internet giving the real lowdown on Islam and their pedophile prophet’s marriage to six year old Aisha.
Google -— Islam’s x rated paradise — A real classic by the Hindus
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html
“Sunis are just shia who herd goats with a condom”.
lol. You had better watch out. That kind of joke is a fatwa offense to a Muslim.
Technically incorrect. The 72 virgins are not "the opposite sex" because they are not human. They are houris, spirit creatures in the shape of beautiful women, designed by Allah to please men who make it to heaven.
As I understand it, the Koran is vague on the reward of righteous Muslim women after death.
"Islamokazes skulk around in mufti, and target unarmed and unsuspecting women and children, in the hopes of getting an admission ticket to their pig-dog-gods whorehouse in the sky. They are lower that the meanest cockroach."
Nice to hear that the truth is getting out there....
“72 Helen Thomas clones await the faithful ;-)”
How can she not be a virgin?
“I am a student of all religions, including Islam, and I have read the Koran several times. I find that the Prophet is a man of peace,” said Jethmalani, adding that it nowhere preaches hate and violence.
“But the decline of Islam started in the 17th century when a person named Wahab propagated hate and violence against all non-Muslims by mis-interpreting one shora (verse) of the Koran,” said Jethmalani.
Obviously, Jethalani has no handle on Islams history of violence and aggressive violent expansion. It goes straight to mohammed back at the 7th century.
How else did they conquer all of the lands around the mediteraenean? It was the devil and his minion Jihadists, every last one of them.
Did you forget the 18 boys like pearls?
This is from the link that dennisw provided.
YOUNG BOYS
Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get “rewarded” by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.
The relevant verses from the Koran are:
Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.
Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.
Nanny berries are just ball bearings to reduce friction during muslim orgies.
Chrissy, the tingle up my leg boy, would make a fine pearl for them.
A shia is a sunni with a tooth.
Interesting. Since jihadi men take to homosexuality like a duck takes to water, a large percentage of righteous Muslim women must, therefore, be virgins. Logically, the virgins that these jihadi fudgepackers encounter in the afterlife are the same virgins they encounter before they die. Get it? A righteous Muslim woman's reward after death is probably a clitoridectomy.
Stop insulting cockroaches!
The “w” is silent in English. In Arabic, apparantly, it is excluded altogether.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD-Nny3EP98
Interview with a terrorist. Believes he’ll get his virgins..
Wouldn’t that make Muhammed a pimp?
I’ve heard it referred to as “those who believe in heaven as whore house.”
Achmed triggers his suicide belt, kills himself and six infidel Jews, goes to Muslim paradise and says, “OK, I did it! Where are my virgins?” The sheik in charge of admissions says, “Well, there’s good news and bad news. The good news is, yes, 72 virgins are waiting for you. The bad news is, they are eternally virgins.”
LOL...I wrote that one down...
Mohammad is a pimp..May PISS be upon mohammeds head...and the long-legged-mac-daddy too.
Nope. I would assume these are also non-human spirit creatures rather than human males.
However, unlike the houris, the Koran does not specifically state these boys are used for sexual purposes.
Conveniently, the Koran does state that the ascended Muslim is provided with a permanent overdose of Viagra to allow him to “perform” at the highest level.
*ping
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Wahhab was a revivalist. His goal, quite successful in the long run, was to bring about a revival of original Islam, complete with its tradition of jihad against the infidel and the apostate.
May the Jihadis find it to be a SF Gay Bath House.
“As I understand it, the Koran is vague on the reward of righteous Muslim women after death.”
I believe mad mo said he looked into hell and saw women there. You know woman are just EVIL creatures!!
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html
Much thanks. This will make the rounds. And I think I’ll be emailing it to not a few Congress Critters.
prompting a Saudi Arabian envoy to walk out of the conferenceHey, if it's that easy, we'll have CAIR right the hell out of our country in no time. Mohammed was a mass-murdering pedophile!
Do you mean the ones here or the ones there?
I was intrigued by this remark and started digging into the politics of India. What I found amazed me. Communists and Muslims rule the roost in India despite Hindus being in majority. Even the Sharia law is legal in India and the term "Hindu fundamentalist" or "Hindu nationalist" is the term invented by Western liberals to describe Hindus who demand equal treatment. There are a lot of laws appeasing the Muslims in India and Europe has followed India in this regard. We are now on the same path of destruction. The one difference between us and India is that Hindus do not care for political correctness and they dish it out like it is. Our liberals are the ones who brand them as fascists and fundamentalists.
“Mohammed’s promise of an Islamic Paradise that glittered with the fulfillment of all sorts of wordly desires and sense enjoyment was nothing but a sinister ploy to recruit those who had no hope or expectation of ever getting these things in their present lives.” .................................. So I guess they should revise it a little, and add a new car, Wii, 60” projection TV, new video games every year, et.al.. Ya can’t spend all your time on 72 virgins and little boys. Geeeez, Allah could have solved all the sex promises with an “orgazmatron ball”, which would leave time for the 72 virgins to go shopping. Folks as I’ve said over and over again, its not a religious struggle, its mainly a struggle of good vs. evil.
Well, it’s a good question. Where does he get all these virgins? After they’ve been shtupped, are they then passed around to staff officers who died of clap during a Jihad? Is getting shtupped by dead jihadis their hell? Furthermore, wouldn’t doing it with virgins get real dull after a while? Why not someone with a bit of experience, who knows a few tricks, and lost all her inhibitions a while ago? It seems to me that would-be jihadis ought to think this through more thoroughly before strapping on a suicide vest.
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
It says a lot about Arabia and the mistreatment of women back in the 6th century if they, according to Mohammed, mostly went to Hell after death.
Next, he needs to ask if any sane person could consider a pedophile serial killer to be a prophet, and if so, a prophet of what sort of deity?

Maybe they get serviced by the “boys like pearls,” whenever they aren’t servicing the dead jihadis.
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