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Live Thread: Senate Debate and Cloture Vote on Motion to Proceed to Debate ObamaCare
Saturday, November 21, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/21/2009 9:43:50 AM PST by kristinn

C-SPAN 2 is carrying the Senate floor debate live this afternoon.

The Democrats control the floor right now. Earlier, Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Kit Bond, Jeff Sessions and David Vitter gave good speeches and dialogues on the budget-busting effects of ObamaCare.

Maria Cantwell is speaking now. Mary Landrieu is excpected to speak shortly.

The cloture vote is scheduled for 8 p.m. EST tonight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; obamao; romneycare; socializedmedicine; supermajority
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To: faucetman

The next round of unemployment numbers will help our talking points as well. We are drowing in debt and the RATS live in a fantasy world of more spending, more entitlements.

Were it not for the recession, some form of Obamacare would already be law.

The danger is if Reid can thread the needle and construct abortion language acceptable to both pro-abortion and pro-life Democratic senators.

We must stop this bill from getting to conference.


141 posted on 11/21/2009 11:08:46 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: kristinn

I’m ashamed and embarrassed for our country that a failed comedian who stole an election is speaking on the floor of the Senate about how Obamacare is going to be a great thing for all....


142 posted on 11/21/2009 11:08:56 AM PST by Fu-fu2
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Senate_GOPs Study Finds That A Vote On Process Is A Vote For The Bill Study Finds That A Vote On Process Is A Vote For The Bill

“A New Study Of Senate Voting Patterns Shows The Chamber Has Approved More Than 97 Percent Of All Bills Subject To A Cloture Motion To Begin Debate — A Finding That Could Undercut Democratic Efforts To Paint A Key Health Care Vote On Saturday As Procedural. According to a new Congressional Research Service report, since 1999 the Senate has approved 97.6 percent of all bills when lawmakers first voted to begin debate.” (“CRS Report Shows Most Bills Subject To Cloture Pass,” Roll Call, 11/19/09)

106th – 110th Congress:

97.6% Of Bills Receiving A Final Vote After Cloture Was Invoked On A Motion To Proceed Passed

http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_Id=b82b1801-412b-4d2b-ade2-d80a3099be10
Kiss your freedoms goodbye…

Congress recognizes no limits on its power. It doesn’t care about the Constitution, it doesn’t care about your inalienable rights. If this health care bill becomes law, America, life as you have known it, freedom as you have exercised it, and privacy as you have enjoyed it will cease to be.


143 posted on 11/21/2009 11:09:34 AM PST by anglian
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To: ncalburt

False. Reid can still use reconcilation. The October 15 deadline means nothing.

That said, Reid promised Ben Nelson that he would not use reconciliation if Nelson voted YES tonight.

If that was the price, it was worth it. Now we’ll learn if Dirty Harry will keep his word. My sense is that he will, because many RAT senators do not want to go nuclear.


144 posted on 11/21/2009 11:11:18 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: bray

What’s with the “Lie-berman”? If Lieberman is joining the filibuster, then he’s our best friend.


145 posted on 11/21/2009 11:13:52 AM PST by BCrago66
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To: All

Does anyone know if Robert Byrd is and how he is going to vote today?

What if he votes yes today and is “unable” to vote “later on”??


146 posted on 11/21/2009 11:13:57 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Fu-fu2

Sure the election in Minnesota was stolen, but the equal blame belongs to every brain-dead person who voted for Dean Barkley, the Jesse Ventura handmaiden who siphoned thousands and thousands of votes away from Coleman. Those people in my opinion deserve to be hung with piano wire - and I am not joking.


147 posted on 11/21/2009 11:13:57 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: kristinn

If this crap sack is passed tonight it is pretty much a done deal on the full bill and Reid knows it.
That is the only reason that they are doing this.
America is asleep and Reid and his evil cohorts are betting on it.


148 posted on 11/21/2009 11:15:00 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: BCrago66

When is he joining?


149 posted on 11/21/2009 11:16:23 AM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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To: faucetman

It is an important vote. They are advancing the deathcare bill. Why let it get any closer?


150 posted on 11/21/2009 11:17:32 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Bushbacker1

“If there is not 60 votes to start the debate, the bill is probably dead.”

Let us all pray......


151 posted on 11/21/2009 11:18:10 AM PST by acoulterfan
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To: WVKayaker

YES


152 posted on 11/21/2009 11:20:04 AM PST by Josephat
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To: kristinn

Is Byrd there? Heard he was ill.

What other senators are not there?


153 posted on 11/21/2009 11:20:31 AM PST by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: ReneeLynn
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154 posted on 11/21/2009 11:20:48 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: mwl8787

interesting.
I read Reid had stated he will not go nuclear route and partly because this bill would be carved up in that process.


155 posted on 11/21/2009 11:21:51 AM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: faucetman

Statistically, 97% of the votes that start debate are passed. This is because it allows amendment to the bill and the cutting of deals. This is the best chance we have to stop it.


156 posted on 11/21/2009 11:22:04 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: ncalburt
has lincoln declared that she will vote yea?

or will we find out now

157 posted on 11/21/2009 11:23:09 AM PST by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

the 100 million is the “up front” money for Mary’s district.
but how much under the table money (undisclosed) will grease her personal palm?


158 posted on 11/21/2009 11:23:46 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The German High Command sent Lenin to destabilize Russia. Who sent Obama?)
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To: OldArmy52

Arkansas’ Blanche Lincoln speech now—sounds like she’s going to be a YEA! vote, feh...


159 posted on 11/21/2009 11:25:29 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48

Oh, wait a minute, she’s talking about competition?! Can she shut this thing down?!? Come on, Blanche! Do the right thing!!


160 posted on 11/21/2009 11:26:52 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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