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To: tlb
So it's OK to stab a guy to death over a seat because he was homeless? Wow, FR just overflows with that Christian charity!

I hope the other passengers sue the conductor's ass to Mars for locking them in with a guy with a knife who'd just murdered one passenger.

3 posted on 11/22/2009 2:50:14 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Godspeed, T, on your fourth tour of duty in Iraq.)
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To: Darkwolf377
I hope the other passengers sue the conductor's ass to Mars for locking them in with a guy with a knife who'd just murdered one passenger.

False imprisonment... the conductor should be also brought up on charges.

12 posted on 11/22/2009 3:45:08 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Darkwolf377
So it's OK to stab a guy to death over a seat because he was homeless? Wow, FR just overflows with that Christian charity! I hope the other passengers sue the conductor's ass to Mars for locking them in with a guy with a knife who'd just murdered one passenger.
He didn't stab him because he was homeless, did you bother to read the story? He just asked the guy to move his bag and the guy started punching him in the face, sounds like self-defense to me. Also, sue the conductor? I've noticed a lot of freepers are for tort reform until someone does something they don't like then it is sue this, sue that.
13 posted on 11/22/2009 3:45:35 AM PST by AUH2O Repub ( SPalin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Darkwolf377

After being punched, I’m thinking self-defense.


33 posted on 11/22/2009 6:11:06 AM PST by votemout
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To: Darkwolf377
On a somewhat related note, I'd like to point out that this coming December 22nd will be the 25th anniversary of Bernhard Goetz Day in New York City. Some folks here on FR may have been around back then, or remember the surreal events related to that incident.

I have no idea if the killer was justified in this case, but -- having worked and traveled in New York City for years -- when dealing with a situation involving a drunken and/or effed-up and/or aggressive bum in a public area, I will always have a hard time generating any sympathy for him unless I see clear and compelling reasons for it.

40 posted on 11/22/2009 6:47:37 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Darkwolf377
So it's OK to stab a guy to death over a seat because he was homeless? Wow, FR just overflows with that Christian charity!

There is a lot missing here.

It is not OK to stab someone over a seat, but if you had read the black print on the white screen you would have seen that the seat-hogger also punched the guy who asked him to move his stuff. Now, if someone punches me, and has the demeanor that he is going to keep on punching, I have the right to defend myself.

Depending on his age, relative size, and physical condition, I may very well be in fear of my life or of great bodily harm from his attack. This is the criteria for armed self defense in rational states and places.

The outcome of this really depends on the statements made by the stabber. If he tells the cops "He was an A-hole and really needed stabbing." he is going to jail for a long time. If he says: "I was in fear of my life, and I want a lawyer." he may walk.

43 posted on 11/22/2009 6:58:36 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Darkwolf377

he locked the doors to get out of the train. the passengers would be able to move to another train car through the interior doors.


51 posted on 11/22/2009 8:17:17 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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