Posted on 11/22/2009 8:19:04 PM PST by dila813
Global warming alarmists are scrambling to save face after hackers stole hundreds of incriminating e-mails from a British university and published them on the Internet.
The messages were pirated from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia (UEA) and reveal correspondence between British and American researchers engaged in fraudulent reporting of data to favor their own climate change agenda. UEA officials confirmed one of their servers was hacked, and several of the scientists involved admitted the authenticity of the messages, according to the New York Times. The article opined, "The evidence pointing to a growing human contribution to global warming is so widely accepted that the hacked material is unlikely to erode the overall argument."
Climatologist Patrick J. Michaels challenged that position. "This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud." The e-mails implicate scores of researchers, most of whom are associated with the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an organization many skeptics believe was created exclusively to provide evidence of anthropogenic global warming (AGW).
(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...
?Trenberth's observed "lack of warming."?
Earth calling Gore and the Dems pushing Cap and Tax.
I’m having a blast over here:
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?t=2493406
The other side is beside themselves.
for later read...
I guess the Internet isn’t the only thing Al Gore “invented.”
It’s time to put this rest
The IPCC did their best
But no one is buying their BS
CO2 Lags Temperature
The ice has shown
The Hot Spot in the Atmosphere ran off with the Heat in the Oceans
And can’t be found
Hockey Stick is Broken and UP Side Down
The 60’s were warmer than 2009. The trend line is against us The Team thundered
Then they sliced and diced until it’s under.
They said the debate was closed.
And they control the “Journals” you know
They hid the data with a frown.
If found out, The Team goes down
The Team’s goose cooked like they cooked the Books.
They’re no better than the Eron Crooks.
They’ll say they did it for prestige and pride
And, of course, a big slice of the money pie
So, make your case CO2, that “Evil Gas”, Rules the Climate if you can
Or declare CO2 a non pollutant
And take it out of EPA’s Hand
Petition the Law Makers to Stop this Scam
Very eclectic looking site.
Yep. Musicians, which means it is people from all walks of life and all ages.
And that’s a musician’s site? Wow. Good job over there, it’s uphill all the way, but you are doing fine!
I’ll bet that algore can’t wait for monday morning so that he can sell his $200 million in greenie stocks short!
RE: your tagline.
If C02 controls the temperature, why do all weather forecasters use maps of Radar, and Water Vapor?
What is fun on that site is even when you have clearly handed someone’s butt to them, they fight back with all sorts of “everybody knows you’re nuts” types of posts. It is almost comical. Especially when you get it from guys that are otherwise pretty smart. The ignorant smugness, nonetheless is actually comical. I can find it funny because it is so obvious that they have lost all their power.
Whether it be here on FR, or on the Musician’s website, or DU, or in your neighbor’s yard, or at work, or at school, no one reacts well to finding out their favorite statue has feet made of clay.
>>Whether it be here on FR, or on the Musician’s website, or DU, or in your neighbor’s yard, or at work, or at school, no one reacts well to finding out their favorite statue has feet made of clay.<<
And we must fight the fight wherever we can.
“Mike, Can you delete any e-mails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise.... Can you also e-mail Gene and get him to do the same?... Will be getting Caspar to do likewise.”
Just based on this email alone, five people should be going to prison.
B-b-b-but I invented the internet!"
WE breath 02 in and CO2 out...and what would we do without plants...it’s CO2 every place...how did these jerk offs get away with this so long?
I know a few Conservative musicians.. I’ll mention “harmony-central” to them.. Thanks for the link!
Brilliant!
The lefty’s on that forum resort to the same tactics as lefty’s everywhere: with insults, name-calling, denial, etc...
They really are children.
It would be fascinating to see a real paradigm shift. It is slowly becoming more conservative.
climateGate Impeach and stop Obama
"Well folks, this story is so important, we felt that the fabrication of some evidence is completely warranted."
Nothing like a “mushroom cloud” to end Global Warming. You might say this is going to bring in a Nuclear winter with regard to Climate Change credibility.
We have long known it was never about the climate anyway. It was always about creating yet another mechanism with which to implement total socialist control over the daily lives of all us non-elites.
A.A.C.
pinging thread to read later!
bump for tomorrow- Are those IPCC researchers who admitted fraud current IPCC? Or are they ex-IPCC?
That is the story title, what they are admitting is subject to interpretation.
I haven’t read the article yet, but often times, ex-IPCC researchers are simply referred to as ‘IPCC researchers’ which is why I’m asking, because if they are ex-IPCC, then they will be accused by the IPCC of being ‘disgruntled ex employees’ who ‘have an ax to grind’- they’ll be marginalized by the Mainstream media- heck, even if they’re currently employed by the IPCC, they’ll be deemed as disgruntled and marginalized in the MSM I’m sure- and sadly, people will buy it.
You should have a look here at the contents of a certain programmers comment files. They start at the top of this page and go on randomly for several pages on the forum(Follow Asimov). I think this is even bigger than the emails.
http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=118625&page=13
“We have long known it was never about the climate anyway. It was always about creating yet another mechanism with which to implement total socialist control over the daily lives of all us non-elites.”
It’s always been about taxing and controlling the serfs...
Nice work over there.
One thing I notice is that some of the posters are trying to say the email release released private personal information about the emailers. The NYT blogsite you quoted also used the supposed release of personal information as an excuse not to post the emails.
BUT...there’s an article floating around FR somewhere where the guy makes an extremely interesting observation, which is that there is in fact NO private personal info in the emails — no sensitive contact info, no emails between husbands and wives, no personal stuff about what’s going on in the office, no off topic chit chat, etc. When you consider how many emails are in the file and yet there is none of this kind of thing, it becomes obvious that whoever released the emails culled them scrupulously to avoid releasing that info. They removed the ones that would have revealed personal stuff. It appears they wanted this release to be “clean”, probably to deny the Alarmists the opportunity the impugn it as a personal smear attack rather than the more businesslike attack that it actually is.
From what I read it appears to me “they” are acknowledging the emails as legitimate, and the article’s authors are therefore accepting said acknowledgement as admission of fraud.
I could be wrong, but that’s what I think I read here.
Fake but accurate.
Bookmark
Anyone see “2012” the movie?
The Earth warmed alright but, it wasn’t from human activity.
Tell a lie big enough and often enough, and eventually people will start to believe it.
What they're saying is they're going to try to keep the lie alive anyway. There's big profit, corruption, and massive political control wrapped up in it.
Oh man, that is perfect!!
Bravo! You have MUCH more patience than I do.......
“”Well folks, this story is so important, we felt that the fabrication of some evidence is completely warranted.” “
Another CLASSIC !!
Is that actually a pic of you on that site? Looks like a 4 string bass in the picture, but I can’t quite tell. I see you play trombone... one of my favorite bass players gave me some advice a while back - get some trombone sheet music and play it to get chops... since it’s in the same register and all.
Good old Doug Nelson. Too bad he got smacked by a truck, he could’ve went very far!
Calling Heidi Cullen, Heidi Cullen. Anyone there?
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