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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Yes, they do

Some skeptics (us) say this is because of encroachment on temperature stations by urban expansion. In other words, the heat island affect.

Here is the neat thing, you don’t even have to have a temperature monitoring station next to a city. If it is to the east of the city and the city gets larger, you have both a rain shadow due to the heat island plus the wind blows in hot air from the city into the countryside.

Land surface records have show significant increases in temperature as compared to satellite data, also the land temperature data appears to be getting worse everyday. In other words, one is reading much more consistently and the other is rising.

Now that they have satellite they should through out the land readings except for normalizing the data to match the satellite record.


89 posted on 11/24/2009 10:44:07 AM PST by dila813
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To: dila813; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Well if you dig thru much of the material... exposed on this thread:

The Missing Hotspot ---The ‘Hotspot’ is crucial to the climate debate.

And in the 25 page PDF document at Dave Evans website.

Where he points out that to find what the atmosphere is doing...heating up or cooling down you need to use radiosondes...satellites won't do...

The AGW crowd really don't want to share their data...

90 posted on 11/24/2009 1:09:47 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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