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To: metmom
"And we will continue to point out evos perversion of theology."

I think we are close to an amiable solution, because this is exactly what we are asking for: keep these fields (science and theology) separate. Nobody here on FR is going to visit your church and forcibly replace the crucifix with a portrait of Darwin. Be similarly considerate and accept the fact that SOME people have to deal with objective reality, at least if you want to have antibiotics, electricity and similar things. The 'creation science' quackery is incompatible with science, so please, just believe (John 20:29), instead of perverting science to supplement your lack of faith with "scientific" corroboration.

127 posted on 11/25/2009 8:46:50 AM PST by Behemoth the Cat
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To: Behemoth the Cat
I think we are close to an amiable solution, because this is exactly what we are asking for: keep these fields (science and theology) separate. Nobody here on FR is going to visit your church and forcibly replace the crucifix with a portrait of Darwin. Be similarly considerate and accept the fact that SOME people have to deal with objective reality, at least if you want to have antibiotics, electricity and similar things. The 'creation science' quackery is incompatible with science, so please, just believe (John 20:29), instead of perverting science to supplement your lack of faith with "scientific" corroboration.

The comparisons are ludicrous and display your ignorance of the history of science.

Scientists, and FRevos in particular, are not nearly as objective as they portray themselves to be. They are not superior than others for any particular reason. They are not more rational or objective and it is not an inherently superior philosophical position to take.

As far as advances in science go, you ought to take a look at the beliefs of the scientists who gave us things like penicillin and electricity.

Penicillin was discovered by accident and Michael Faraday was a devout Christian, very conservative even by today's standards.

There is no reason to keep theology and science separate as there is no reason to keep religion and politics separate.

The great scientists of the last few centuries saw no conflict between the two.

The current mentality that they must be kept separate and religion relegated to the back of the bus is an artificial construct by those who want to eliminate it and found in science the perfect weapon and found in scientists the perfect useful idiots.

Remove religion from science and there's no moral restraint to stop things like embryonic stem cell research.

Remove religion from politics, and there's no moral restraint on the actions of politicians.

Science never fared well in an atheistic environment or society.

Since science is allegedly silent on the issue of God, scientists are in no position to tell anyone else that they are wrong about their opinions on God's involvement of science.

Scientists, in passing judgment on God's role in science are violating their own standards that they themselves have set up.

138 posted on 11/25/2009 9:18:44 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Behemoth the Cat; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ..
I think we are close to an amiable solution, because this is exactly what we are asking for: keep these fields (science and theology) separate.

If theology and science are supposed to be kept separate, then where to scientists get off telling creationists and Christians how to interpret the Bible, saying that God really meant that He used evolution in Genesis when it clearly says He didn't?

Where do scientists get off telling people how to interpret the Bible so that it *proves* that the earth is flat?

Evos keep spreading lies about the beliefs of creationists, despite being corrected by creationists time without number.

Don't scientists have any compunction or scruples about lying? No ethical or moral basis for saying that lying is wrong?

143 posted on 11/25/2009 9:48:05 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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