Posted on 11/24/2009 10:09:43 AM PST by NYer
I have always thought the problem with homosexuals in the Catholic church as an attack from within.
One way to destroy something is from within.
People in the Archdiocese of Boston had been aware of the three priests who were the most prominent in the scandal that erupted, but it's instructive to know that it wasn't until just before the Supreme Judicial Court sent down it's edict forcing homosexual marriage on the state, that it became a big news story. Those who knew the Church would be a major force in opposition to homosexual marriage pushed the story in the media in order to reduce the effectiveness of any opposition by the Catholic Church, and sadly, it worked.
Even before the story broke, Cardinal Law had begun the process to screen seminarians, and volunteers in Parishes, so that this wouldn't happen again. Those measures were already in place when all this hit the fan, and Cardinal Sean O'Malley just followed through on those rules, when he took over the Archdiocese. Most instances you hear about today, happened many years ago, but the victims are only now speaking out. And sadly, a good number of those new accusations are false, from folks who just want to get some quick money.
I always thought it was interesting that the Church was castigated for 'not doing anything', when they DID. It's just that pedophiles and sexual abusers cannot be 'healed', even though the psychiatrists and psychologists TOLD the Dioceses that these priests WERE healed. Why were these medical folks never called to account for their part in all this? I never heard ONE person in the media say anything negative about the counseling community's role. All the blame went on the Dioceses for returning these men to their positions in Parishes, even though they'd be told that it was OK to do so.
You know what, we’d have to sue the universities who gave them their educations too. At that time people really thought that psychiatrists could actually make people well. We now know that psychiatry alone can’t heal anything. It was back when liberalism was growing and accepted, that if you just treated people nice they wouldn’t rob you or kill you.
It was about the same time that the liberalism that is choking our nation was touting self-esteem, w/o accomplishment, of course. “You’re okay, I’m okay”, “The devil made me do it”. No accountability, it was always some mean entity’s fault if you messed up and personal sin was always someone else’s fault. Victims were made and then celebrated as if they had actually accomplished something by pointing a finger. Personal responsibility and intiative were considered selfish.
Argh! I could go on, but you’re on FR, you already know.
I just finished reading David Horowitz's book, "Radical Son", and his contention is that the liberal radicals just never grew up, they always act like adolescents who blame their failings on someone else.
Slander doesn't just wipe off, even if you theoretically win a lawsuit. It's still "there", which is why it's such an insidious mortal sin. It violates the commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Murder".
So, how many innocent priests are you willing to sacrifice to drive out the homosexuals? I don't disagree with keeping them out of the priesthood, I do disagree strongly with this "expedient" method that will undoubtedly harm the innocent.
And yes, the Church has everything to lose: every good priest that fears they will be the next innocent victim of vicious slander will suffer, and every good candidate for the priesthood will rightfully rethink their decision if it becomes apparent the Church will not defend their own.
I have never figured out why the parents of kids molested by these pervs never went to the police.
I do not see it the way that you do. If you do what is right, you have nothing to fear. Maybe I am missing something, but I have a difficult time believing that any priest that is not a practicing homosexual would be afraid of being falsely accused. Part of being a Christian is knowing that you have a chance of being falsely accused as Jesus warned. It comes with the territory. Those that are seeking to “expose” homosexual priests are doing this out of hatred for the Church. It is to their shame, and they will answer for it on the last day.
A priest that is not a practicing homosexual has everything to be afraid of with a media that is ready to devour and destroy the Church and her priests at any cost. How can you not see that? The Church is probaby more hated by the media than Sarah Palin, and they gleefully destroyed her children.
If the MSM won’t bother to fact-check Obama’s own autobiographical manifestos, what makes you think they’ll “get to the bottom” of a priest “outing” to make sure it’s legit?
It’s already “strike three” on good priests. You want them to get bludgeoned with a bat on the way back to the dugout, just in case someone in the front row thinks they’re homosexual.
I believe that the Church and the priesthood are far stronger than you do. If the Church starts fearing what the world says or does, she is in big trouble. All these attacks will fail. Neither the Church nor the priesthood is going to be destroyed by outside forces. Frankly, the Christian Church has far more serious problems than some group trying to expose or “out” priests.
In most cases, they didn't want their kids to have to testify. That's why, several times, when the problems finally came to light, the statute of limitations had run out, and the priests couldn't be prosecuted. That made people REALLY angry, but that was the law.
Look, I have read at least 7 books on the sexual abuses. I will recommend one you should read if nothing else. Notice they cost less than $1.00 if you buy them "like new" or "used." I don't think I paid more than $3 per book, including shipping! BETRAYAL (You can actually read some pages of the book itself. Very interesting and you will learn a lot!
Do you want more titles? THERE IS PLENTY!
Read a bunch of them and then will get an idea of who is telling the truth.
But let me give you a hint from BETRAYAL: The Pedophile priests were careful in choosing people who were poor without the resources or the knowledge to do something about it when they found out what they were doing to a chil. Some of these criminals, would come into the houses of kids where there was no father... and little by little - like snakes - moving slowly... would get the confidence of the mother (or parents) and strike at the opportune time! yes... now... imagine the CONFUSION of the kids... here was this man, a "nice" man, a PRIEST everyone respected and trusted and he was doing these "things" to them... They did not even know if "these things" were good or bad... some of them were CHILDREN! for God's sake. When they finally realized there was something weird about "those things," now they had convince their parents!... and this was not an easy task, many parents thought the kids were lying. THEN - and here come the worst part- if they were able to convince the parents and they finally mustered the courage to face the priest or the Bishop (the big guys), then, in many cases, the "bishop" or someone in the "organization" tried buying their silence with the understanding they would have to keep their mouths shut!... And in some cases, when this did not work, the church would actually threatened the family by using the FULL FORCE of the church (lawyers, etc) against them. So it was the word of a peasant vs. the word of the mighty "HOLLY CHURCH." Furthermore, in Boston, since many of the positions of power (academia, police) and held by the Irish, then even going to the police was risky and they would eventually look the other way. It took these reporters to BLOW IT ALL UP... until finally they brought them to their knees and the rest is history as they say.
Some here would try you make you believe that ROME did not know anything!... They had no idea this was happening in the U.S.. HA!... Trust me these people are some of the brightest, most educated, brilliant thinkers in the world... Idiots, they are not!
There is good reason why many, like me, have such a deep resentment toward the RCC (and those who gave them cover) Just read some of the books... they are very cheap, then you will be able to tell who is telling the full story. If you read 5 books and you think the are all "lying" then, that's your choice :)
Another reason I call the RCC ARROGANT, it's just like politics right now... The old party bosses are losing control because they can not control the flow of information anymore, same thing with the church... I think they think all they have to do is to let time pass... and all will be forgotten eventually. HA!... :)
American Bishops should be on their needs, yes, asking us for forgiveness for their failures, but more importantly DEMONSTRATING that they are cleaning themselves and the church from those errors...
BUT DO YOU GET THE FEELING that is what they are doing?... No... they still think they can control people they way they did it for centuries.
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