Posted on 11/24/2009 3:59:48 PM PST by wagglebee
This is EXACTLY what is happening.
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O-Bozos Health Czar would have pulled the plug 22 years ago
Prior to Terri's court-ordered murder, we were constantly told that she didn't "want" to live like that; however, a person with no brain function doesn't actually WANT anything.
During the course of Terri's court-ordered murder she was given massive quantities of morphine so she wouldn't "feel" pain; however, a person with no brain function doesn't actually FEEL anything.
As Terri's court-ordered murder drew to a close we were told she was experiencing "euphoria"; however, it is IMPOSSIBLE for a person with no brain function to be EUPHORIC.
Change you can believe in.
o-bow man voters, hows that change working out for you now.
Hell, Zero never would have let the czars plug it in to begin with.
Already happened to Terri Schiavo. That woman was starved and dehydrated to death and clearly there was life in her.
This proves Terri was “alive” and was murdered even more then I already believed. Amazing a man like Terri knew everything going on around him but was stuck and couldn’t tell people around him.
Truly sad.
The left took multiple daily polls in the months leading up to, during and after her murder.
These polls allowed the culture of death to gauge exactly what was and what wasn't acceptable to the majority of the public.
This has since been developed into a template for future murders and they are now setting up Zerocare which will enable them to commit future murders in the name of "fiscal responsibility".
It has all been done before:
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Would you be so kind as to provide a couple paragraph synopsis about his case - like.... HOW did he finally get correctly diagnosed?
And... is it possible that there will there be a BIG law suit for malpractice? Or have the genius neurologists got themselves 'covered' against any liability in this 2-plus decades long debacle?
Thanks.
Here is yesterday’s story from LifeNews:
London, England (LifeNews.com) — After he was the victim of an automobile accident, doctors said 23-year-old Rom Houben was in a comatose state and unable to communicate with those around him. Now, 23 years later, the 46-year-old says he felt trapped as he was conscious the entire time and attempted to communicate.
Houben became paralyzed after the crash but, thanks to advances in medical technology, he is now able to tell the world his thoughts via computer.
“I screamed, but there was nothing to hear,” he told the London Daily Mail newspaper.
“I dreamed myself away,” he said of how he coped with the situation. “All that time I just literally dreamed of a better life. Frustration is too small a word to describe what I felt.”
Although tests at the time showed that he was essentially “extinct,” newer tests conducted just three years ago showed Houben’s brain was functioning normally — and his renewed ability to communicate is something he describes as a “second birth.”
“I shall never forget the day when they discovered what was truly wrong with me - it was my second birth,” he told the paper. “I want to read, talk with my friends via the computer and enjoy my life now that people know I am not dead.”
British neurological expert Dr. Steven Laureys has described Houben’s case in a new paper and said, “Medical advances caught up with him.”
The paper indicates doctors used the internationally accepted Glasgow Coma Scale to assess his eye, verbal and motor responses, but the results were incorrect.
Laureys says physicians need to not be so quick to label patients as in a vegetative state, because such a diagnosis can be incorrect.
“’Anyone who bears the stamp of “unconscious” just one time hardly ever gets rid of it again,” he said.
American bioethicist Wesley J. Smith commented today on the case and said it has significant implications for the euthanasia and assisted suicide debate.
“We hear constantly that people diagnosed as being persistently unconscious should be dehydrated to death because they are not ‘persons,’ or are actually ‘dead’ — and so should be available for organ harvesting,” he said.
“We hear that even if the family resists, futile care theory should permit bioethics committees to impose unilateral withdrawal. And we hear this even as repeated studies demonstrate that 40 or more percent of patients diagnosed as PVS really aren’t,” he continued.
Smith says “there are abundant reasons to treat people with profound cognitive disabilities as fully human beings.”
“First and foremost, because they are us. Second, because we don’t know enough about how the brain works to know that there won’t be some regeneration to permit eventual restoration of some function. But also, because there is always hope,” he said.
“Houben is here today only because he wasn’t dehydrated to death,” Smith concludes.
“There is no doubt he went through a horrendous experience, but thanks to treating him as a fully equal human being by caring for him all those years and giving him tests late into his disability–explicitly refused to Terri Schiavo–he is here today to tell tale and live the rest of his life,” he said.
“And for goodness sake, whatever you believe about these issues, don’t talk in the presence of PVS or other apparently unconscious patients as if they aren’t there. Rather, always treat such people as if they can hear you, because sometimes they can,” Smith said.
I was able to read almost half of it; I'll read the other half tommorrow.
I wonder how many other 100s of 1000s of people have been misdiagnosed?
It's just tooooo awful to contemplate.
Thanks again. I shall return.
Later.
HP
You know, this is exactly what I tried to tell some of the pro-deathers during the Schiavo debate who claimed they were certain they wouldn't want to live if in Terri's situation. There is just no way to know whether you might be trapped inside your own body screaming for life. I would NEVER sign a directive allowing someone to starve/dehydrate me to death.
There was a piece on the BBC yesterday about this. What I saw for communication is what is called “facilitated communication”. It made a big splash here about 15-16 years ago getting up hopes that people with severe MR could communicate and then it was determined to be not a hoax exactly but not likely to be real communication. Here’s a link to an article about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facilitated_communication
Maybe this is real. I hope it is, but I honestly doubt it.
AP version, they need better diagnostic criteria and functional MRI and/or PET standards before labeling PVS, IMHO.
I was under anesthesia thirty years ago and I became conscious during the middle of the operation. Before I frighten anyone facing surgery nowadays, may I reassure you that anesthesia has come a long way since then. I had no trouble with anesthesia in a recent operation and the head anesthesiologist allayed all my fears. In any case, I know what it feels like to be trapped inside a body unable to communicate, tho this was for a very short time only.
Read what I wrote in post #7. If a person truly has no brain function they DO NOT "want" anything.
The reality is that a lot of people get uncomfortable around the disabled or people they consider "different". Most people learn to adapt, but some would rather eliminate the "problem" rather than feel uncomfortable.
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