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To: BroJoeK

I don’t want to change the topic here, but I can’t agree on the honesty of evolution science.

There has been the same forces of repression toward skeptics and the evidence of interspecies change is wholly missing. The same religious fervor affects its proponents.


54 posted on 12/01/2009 9:12:26 AM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: dervish
"I don’t want to change the topic here"

But of course, you did change the subject -- by comparing "climate change" to evolution, and declaring both equally false.

"I can’t agree on the honesty of evolution science."

To suggest that every scientist out in the field digging up bones, or in labs studying evolutionary changes in DNA, is somehow professionally dishonest is, well, ludicrous.

"There has been the same forces of repression toward skeptics and the evidence of interspecies change is wholly missing."

There is no scientific evidence for "scientific creationism" or "intelligent design" -- none, zero, zip, nada. It is argument by assertion, pure and simple.

By contrast, normal scientific skepticism about various evolutionary process -- an off cited example is, how could an eye develop by random mutation and natural selection? -- is entirely appropriate, and actually occurs every day in science.

"The same religious fervor affects its proponents."

Religious fervor? Are you also an expert on religious fervor? And you can detect religious fervor in, what, the eyes of a scientist? Or is it in the way he or she waves their hands?

Do you see religious fervor in scientists supporting theories relating to evolution, and yet you detect NO such religious fervor in anyone claiming "scientific creationism" or "intelligent design"? Do these people seem to you entirely devoid of religious fervor?

The truth is that real science is not about religious fervor or dogmatic assertions. It is about collecting & analyzing data, suggesting and confirming or disproving hypotheses, publishing peer-reviewed findings, etc.

Theories relating to evolution have met this standard for over 150 years. Claims relating to "scientific creationism" or "intelligent design" have not. And now, it seems, neither has "Man-made global warming."

In the end, the Piltdown Man hoax -- which falsified a "missing link" between man & apes -- had no effect on theories of evolution because eventually there have been dozens of such links found by real scientists doing honest work.

And, possibly, "climate change" could end up the same way. But as of today there are far too many real scientists saying: wait! Not so fast. Go back to ground truth and start over with honest data. This tells me the issue is far from "settled science."

Nothing remotely resembling that has ever happened in scientific debates over evolution. Not even after the Piltdown Man hoax. Reason: too much other confirming evidence, and the lack of a viable alternate scientific explanation.

55 posted on 12/03/2009 6:16:26 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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