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To: Beckwith
Obama — Kenyan father — (jus sanguinis)

On another thread, another FReeper cited and quoted Blackstone as pointing out that English law has never followed jus sanguinis.

Born on U.S. soil = natural-born U.S. citizen.

In Barack's case, even if he were born in a foreign country, he'd still be a natural-born U.S. citizen, because his mother and father were not properly married under U.S. law -- the father was still married to another Kenyan woman, which made his pretended marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham bigamous, null, and void.

Stanley Ann Dunham was Obama's sole legal parent, and she was a U.S. citizen. End of story.

Until, that is, Barry Soetoro's stepfather took him to Indonesia and naturalized him there -- which meant giving up his U.S. citizenship under Indonesian law. Did he ever get it back? Could he ever be "natural-born" U.S. again? Stay tuned -- I think that is exactly what Obama is actually covering up. Not his birth, but his renaturalization -- or the lack of it.

181 posted on 11/26/2009 6:59:35 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

FINALLY someone on here brings up exactly what I’ve thought would be the damning to Obama.

It isn’t Stanley and any questions surrounding Obama’s birth that is the real question - it is his admitted, known and proven adoption by a citizen of Indonesia and Obama being legally a citizen of Indonesia.

If Obama regained his US citizenship upon reaching age 21 and returning to the US he become a naturalized citizen.

If he failed to disavow his Indonesian citizenship when reaching adulthood he is at best a dual citizen and at worst a illegal alien just like his Kenyan Aunt.

Under either scenario, Obama is not qualified given he owed allegiance to a Foreign Government.

(See John Jay’s July 25, 1787 to George Washington)


196 posted on 11/26/2009 9:22:52 AM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: lentulusgracchus
English law has never followed jus sanguinis.

We haven't been subject to English Law since July 4, 1776, or didn't you get the memo.

As far as the rest of your convoluted scenario -- that's nice.

You are completely wrong in your definition of "natural born" citizen. Please educate yourself:

Natural Born Citizen -- The Law


302 posted on 11/27/2009 2:37:00 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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