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Posted on 11/26/2009 7:36:22 AM PST by XHogPilot
Obama administration climate czar Carol Browner on Wednesday rejected claims that e-mails stolen from a British university show that climate scientists trumped up global-warming numbers, saying she considers the science settled.
"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, whom President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.
The e-mails were hacked from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia and have come to light over the past week. They appear to show scientists saying they've smoothed over data that doesn't back up their claims of warming, and pondering how to freeze out scientists who disagree with them.
Release of the e-mails has energized skeptics ahead of next month's major global warming meeting in Copenhagen, which is supposed to set the framework for a new global treaty to restrict greenhouse gas emissions.
The White House said Wednesday that Mr. Obama will personally travel to Copenhagen to commit the U.S. to greenhouse gas reductions.
Ms. Browner said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."
She also said the e-mails are only trickling out, and that the entire set hasn't been released.
Ms. Browner initially shrugged when asked about the e-mails, saying she didn't have a reaction. But when a reporter followed up, she said she will stick with the consensus of the 2,500 climate scientists on the International Panel on Climate Change who concluded global warming is occurring and is most likely being pushed by human actions.
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So "Tree Cutter" Brawner is going to stick with the 2500 "scientists" ~ I think that crap is covered in the emails too.
People who believe in the 2500 scientists story are the TRUE BELIEVERS of the age.
Give that old bat a red ribbon eh!
I reject climate czar.
... who used flawed base data? Ms Greener is a fool.
Using liberal logic (I know, an oxymoron)
The facts and evidence do not matter. The seriousness of the claims alone demand action.
A line I believe used in the “high tech lynching” of Justice Clarence Thomas.
we have to all send messages via phone and on here to the elitist media and ask them why they refuse to cover this like they did with ACORN, SEIU, Fraud in elections and no fact checking over bozo and his past.
The media will get away with this unless we start to stand up and make them accountable.
‘She also said the e-mails are only trickling out, and that the entire set hasn’t been released’
Yes, I hate it when people manipulate data too.
Obama going to climate summit with vow: 17% less U. S. emissions
By H. Josef Hebert
Updated: November 26, 2009, 7:38 AM / 3 comments
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WASHINGTONPutting his prestige on the line, President Obama will personally commit the United States to a goal of substantially cutting greenhouse gases at next months Copenhagen climate summit. He will insist that America is ready to tackle global warming despite resistance in Congress over higher costs for businesses and homeowners.
Obama will attend the start of the conference Dec. 9 before heading to Oslo, Norway, to accept the Nobel Peace Prize. He will put on the table a U. S. commitment to cut emissions by 17 percent over the next decade, on the way to reducing heat-trapping pollution by 80 percent by midcentury, the White House said.
Cutting U. S. carbon dioxide emissions by one-sixth in just a decade would be likely to increase energy bills, but the administration says there would be important health trade-offs.
Carol M. Browner, Obamas assistant for energy and climate change, cited a $173-per-year estimated cost in a briefing Wednesday a figure for a family of four calculated by the Congressional Budget Office. Republicans say costs would be higher.
But slashing carbon dioxide emissions could save millions of lives, mostly by reducing preventable deaths from heart and lung diseases, according to studies published this week in the British medical journal Lancet.
The White House said Obamas decision to attend the international conference in Denmark was a sign of his continuing commitment and leadership to find a global solution to the global threat of climate change.
But Obamas stopover on the conferences second day instead of later when negotiations will be most intense and when most other national leaders will take part disappointed some European and U. N. climate officials, as well as some environmentalists.
Others said Obamas personal appeal will resonate with the delegates from more than 75 countries and help reset the U. S. image on the climate issue after eight years in which the Bush administration staunchly opposed mandatory reductions in greenhouse gases.
Yvo de Boer, the United Nations climate chief, said that it is important for the United States to establish emissions reduction targets and a financial commitment to helping developing countries address climate change.
If he comes in the first week to announce that, it would be a major boost to the conference, de Boer told the Associated Press.
The presidents first trip to Copenhagen just last month was less than fruitful. He made an unsuccessful pitch for the 2016 Summer Olympics to be held in Chicago.
Obamas participation had been in doubt since it became clear that the Dec. 7-18 conference was unlikely to produce a binding agreement. The original goal of the conference was to produce a new global climate change treaty to replace the 1997 Kyoto Protocol. But in recent weeks, it became clear that delegates were likely to produce at best an outline for an agreement to be considered late next year.
The White House said Obamas commitment to a 17 percent emissions cut from 2005 levels by 2020 would be the first step toward an 80 percent reduction outlined in legislation before Congress. It said Obama is expecting robust mitigation contributions from China and other emerging nations as part of any final agreement.
Obama pressed for cooperation on climate change in meetings with Chinese President Hu Jintao in Beijing last week and with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during a state visit at the White House on Tuesday.
The White House said that it also will send a half-dozen Cabinet secretaries to the talks, including Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Commerce Secretary Gary F. Locke, as well Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa P. Jackson, whose agency is preparing regulations to cut greenhouse gases.
The high-profile delegation is intended to reinforce Obamas stance, despite the bitter debate in Congress. The House narrowly passed legislation requiring a cap on greenhouse gases from power plants and industry, but its still unclear whether Senate Democrats will be able to muster the 60 votes needed to approve a similar bill.
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Margret Sullivan the editor who always claims to be un biased , has yet to even acknowledge the scam is over.
“Pay no attention to these messages. Global warming is near, it is very near indeed ... the mother of all climate disasters is only months, weeks, days away .....”
Not denial, they are working together to use this manufactured crisis to further their cause of a global one world government with totalitarian power.
A propaganda article.
What did they expect her to say
“OH NEVER MIND”
Carol Browner- World Socialist
Yes, everything will be "settled" soon: R2/CW2.
Browner = world socialist
“People who believe in the 2500 scientists story are the TRUE BELIEVERS of the age”
Whenever I hear this “2500 scientists” crap from people I know and people I work with (most of whom are scientists) I reply “Name 5 of them”.
Most can’t name two.
Moreover, a significant fraction of those “2500 scientists” associated with the IPCC are government bureaucrats from government agencies associated with climate concerns; others may be actual scientists, but they’re from countries on the order of Gambia, who are only too happy to get a ticket to cool places like Kyoto and Copenhagen.
An appeal to “2500 scientists” isn’t an argument - it’s a strategy to avoid an argument. And if you’re Algore or Browner, and you don’t know shiite about science, that’s probably an understandable approach.
But the sad fact is: these international socialist “True AGW Believers” are more fervent in their communist-inspired “faith” that man is destroying the planet by merely “being here” than the capitalists and Christians they fervently hate believe in “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”.
To coin a phrase.
The longer they remain in denial the bigger fools them become.
The logical fallacy of appealing to authority, but even that is meaningless because these “2,500 scientists” are some of those in these emails covering and altering data.
That's bull and an out and out lie. The entire data set is out there for download. I've downloaded it. Its just taking people a while to go through it all...but its all been released.
These people are letting those Cap and Trade tax, Dollar signs in their eyes, close their minds.
This whole scheme is a huge money ponzi scheme and many people have and will stand to get rich rich rich. The politicians nursing at the nipple of those rich benefactors and the idiotic rich celebrities stand to lose a lot. This is really so appropriate for all these people to be exposed as the frauds they really are but they can’t afford to fold willfully. They will try to perpetuate the lie that they have staked their claims on. I find myself thinking that God will not be mocked.
Browner: “The fact that the data about Globull Warming was made up, merely makes me believe it HARDER!”
The goal of the Fascicratic party is to reduce the world population by 5 billion and make the rest so poor they can never do anything again.
They don’t call her czar for nothing.
I can never post what I really want to say because I am afraid these political arrogant f* pigs will track me down and destroy my life.
“But slashing carbon dioxide emissions could save millions of lives, mostly by reducing preventable deaths from heart and lung diseases,.....” - Carol Browner, Idiot in Charge
Now, for some facts.
From Wikipedia.... (I know, I know)
Carbon dioxide is used by plants during photosynthesis to make sugars, which may either be consumed in respiration or used as the raw material to produce other organic compounds needed for plant growth and development.
ScienceDaily (Apr. 23, 2009) Plants absorbed carbon dioxide more efficiently under the polluted skies of recent decades than they would have done in a cleaner atmosphere, according to new findings published this week in Nature.
From Merck Online Medical......
The primary function of the respiratory system is to exchange oxygen and carbon dioxide. Inhaled oxygen enters the lungs and reaches the alveoli. The layers of cells lining the alveoli and the surrounding capillaries are each only one cell thick and are in very close contact with each other. This barrier between air and blood averages about 1 micron (1/10,000 of a centimeter) in thickness. Oxygen passes quickly through this air-blood barrier into the blood in the capillaries. Similarly, carbon dioxide passes from the blood into the alveoli and is then exhaled.
I want someone to show me where MILLIONS of deaths are attributed to increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
Not in denial, just following the party line which is written by a hard core left of America haters.
In one of the video segments of the “Global Warming Swindle”, one of the commentators connects the dots of what happened to the vast Soviet propaganda machine of thousands and thousands of journalists and media controllers and infiltrators. The segment shows clips of people in this machine, its size, that it existed post-Soviet collapse without direction in disarray until a leadership emerged to direct these people to “Global Warming” and control of industry through climate regulation.
This is in my view not a hollow conspiracy stemming from paranoid thinking but rather an accurate inference of what happened to the old Soviet propaganda arm, a media organization trained in subversion and distortion of the truth.
We have just witnessed it and will oontinue to witness a centralized response to the expose of the CRU.
Unfortunately, the person in the office of the presidency is part of machine.
I wrote this and I believe it, because any rational leader who believes there are questions raised by this release of documents would call for investigation of this matter, and yet the actual response is entirely predictable only if the leadership is following an agenda of global control and taxation.
Joseph Goebbels lives to serve again. The mindless masses thrive in the DemoRAT party.
Some never learn.
IMO this is the result of letting the communists take over our universities.
Doing a search on "global warming" returns a story about the CRU emails on the first unpaid link at the top.
The grounds shifting underneath you Browner, I hope you get buried just like in the movie "2012".
Ms Greener isn’t a fool, she’s a communist. These aren’t scientists they are activists using propaganda thinly veiled as science to fool the masses.
What do they care about facts? If they were concerned with facts they wouldn’t support global warming or communism.
As you know, the "Petition Project" has collected signatures from 31,486 real American scientists...
The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,714 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.
All of the listed signers have formal educations in fields of specialization that suitably qualify them to evaluate the research data related to the petition statement. Many of the signers currently work in climatological, meteorological, atmospheric, environmental, geophysical, astronomical, and biological fields directly involved in the climate change controversy.
They also openly list the credentials and names of each of the people who have signed the petition including their specialty. Many are experts in atmospheric research.
I have never seen such a list of warmist believers. They are hiding behind anonymity.
I know which group I'll listen to when I draw conclusions.
Just who are the deniers here?
There, that's better.
Browner has been one of the key EcoGreenFacists for close to two decades.
She like most other liberals can’t admit that they have been scamming/gaming Americans and others with their Gorebull warming BS.
In another somewhat related item, Barack Insane Obama's administration advisers less than 10% have any degree or experience in what they advise him on ... whereas Eisenhower had over 90% of his advisers with degrees or experience in their field ....
F I R E D!!!
The entire AGW thing has been a SCAM about CONTROL and SOCIAL ENGINEERING from the git go!!!
The documentary “the Great Global Warming Swindle” has a scientist who makes the exact same claim that these people are vaguely related to the inquiry, have been included on the list without their consent, etc. It’s a travesty when politics rears its head.
I'll put up my 31,000 American scientists against Ms. Browner's 2500 any day of the week. Have a look at The Global Warming Petition at the Petition Project website. We have let them tell this "small group of people" story long enough. There are many, many more scientists who are "skeptics" than there are global warming alarmist "scientists".
The MSM will try to focus on "all the good things" at the conference but the impact of ClimateGate on the conference will be a BIG TIME story on the blogs and it will just be impossible to keep it out of the MSM news cycle. Obama may be able to ignore ClimateGate but his underlings will be peppered with questions about it.
This is going to be so much fun.
Ping me if you find one I've missed.