Skip to comments.AP Declares Obama "Kenyan-born"!
Posted on 11/26/2009 8:16:02 AM PST by Jess Kitting
(Oct. 14, 2009) What most people know is that the Associated Press (AP) is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated news services. What most people dont know that is in 2004, the AP was a birther news organization.
How so? Because in a syndicated report, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times, and which was, as of this report, available at
The AP reporter stated the following:
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a natural born citizen, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.
The difficulty in finding this gem of a story is hampered by Google, which is running flak for Obama: because if you search for Kenyan-born US Senate you wont find it, but if you search for the phrase without quotes you will find links which talk about it.
Oh good, this again.
At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
Emmerich De Vattel, (1714-1767,) Law of Nations, 1758, § 212, "Of the citizens and naturals."
Are we now saying that the AP has a credible fact-checking operation? Media is infallible again because of an obscure reference?
Sunday, June 27, 2004
Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
Have you seen a picture of Obama Sr? That was never his father.
Scrubbed already by the White House.
Impossible!? That would mean Comrade Obama Jr lied about who his father was.
I doubt his mom even knew which guy was the father.
I agree. God what has our government become?
WOW if only there were a not for profit website that I could donate money to the Childrens ward of Kapiolani hospital in Hawaii in the Name of the Doctor that birthed Obama with said donations only made available in that doctors name as proven on the long version of Obama;s BC I am sure the White House would never deny the children such a large and generous donation that the millions interested in this subject would happily donate....
But we already knew this...
So why wasn’t Hillery Clinton on this like a bat from hell during the campaign?
A trash dump for the insane and criminals. Few left that are conservative Constitutionalists.
So...where DO they appear? It says "This report explains...". What report? Hearsay is not sufficient.
We have not been able to confirm this at all. Therefore we consider untrue, until it is sourced.
Without a recording of the debate it leaves open to many denials.
Also, it stretches credulity that Alan Keyes would bring up NBC, as it is not a requirement, so it wouldn’t even be a question.
Not that I doubt you in the least, but how is it that that can be linked to the framers?
Has anyone just come out and asked Alan Keyes?
3. In October of 2004, during the ABC Chicago Affiliates broadcast of the Obama-Keyes debates, Obama openly admitted he conceded that he was not a natural born citizen. (C-Span aired the uncut version of the debates, which contained this exchange, in the second half of April, 2005)
So where's the tape? - Not what they say he said, but he himself saying it ON TAPE. Poof? Gone? Erased? Scrubbed? In David Axelrod's vault?
Yes, I saw a video where keyes on camera says he just doesn’t remember. Might have happened, but he has no memory of it.
Isn’t the AP mentioned here the African Press not the Associated Press? African Press played with the BC issue and some tape of supposedly Michelle.
Is that a personal comment or is it something that can be sourced?
That comment has been denied by the keyes camp here on FR. I can’t give you a link.
Curiously, the fellow from the time haf a century ago thet Hussein most closely resembles is one Malcolm X.
AGREE, we have what our Founders feared. The powers that be, as crooked as they be, don’t want to touch this. They’d rather watch in their well funded comfort while their gift ship goes down. And what the hell is the deal with SCOTUS doing nothing - you’d think they were running the military operation in Afghanistan.
Hope to feel better later as the family celebrates what may be one of last free Thanksgivings.
Well, if a federal judge admits twittering as evidence?.....
I have read the article many times before. To what are you directing my attention.
All debates are videotaped. The author of this piece needs to put up or shut up.
Yes, what is Alan Keyes? A potted plant? That man is pretty quick on his feet. I’m pretty sure he’d remember that exchange and even have his own tape of the event.
Yes, his campaign manager 'Eternal Vigilance'(also a freeper) reports that Alen, unfortunately, "doesn't remember" any such exchange with Obama.
Transcripts: from http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcripts.php?p=2
Here’s a nugget from those transcripts of the debate:
OBAMA: I think it is an enormous problem. This has been the most fiscally-irresponsible administration in certainly my memory.
(referring to the Bush administration, of course!) What a darned hypocrite obozo is.
Obama can be a smooth talker when he’s got his material memorized.
which video has Alan Keyes exclaiming Barry O. isn’t even NBC?
I can watch them all later if you are just pointing them out for my reference but, I have to slay a turkey right now.
which video has Alan Keyes exclaiming Barry O. isnt even NBC?
None that I know of. I posted the videos and transcript links for those advocating the Keyes/Obama discourse to find it and link it for us. Everything I’ve read says keyes never had the exchange. Nobody has ever come up with a video or quote from the transcripts that say differently. Yet the crap is posted as if it happened. It now has an internet life of of it’s own as if it was the truth.
Yep. I have never been able to prove Barry O. said that either.
Then again, I can’t prove where he was born. LOL.
I am still going to listen to debates anyway. Why? I ate to much and I may be a glutton for punishment.
Transcript links a few post down if you don’t want to listen.
Interesting. But I saw a short clip on this site or Youtube where a democrat lawyer during the Obama/Hillery runoff made the claim that Obama was not natural born citizen. The Birther’s probably picked up on that but the lawyer, I was told, worked for Clintons. Secondly, why would the Clintons be up for letting Obama win when they could gain even more prestige and power, not to mention make history as the first husband and wife presidency and first woman president of the US? As well, the Clintons went into debt during the race and had to rely on Obama to bail them out (his first bailout, no doubt). It seems too big of a risk to get that far in debt (11 million) — or maybe not, because Lou Dobbs was given 8 or 6 million for leaving CNN. This is peanuts for some people.
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