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AP Declares Obama "Kenyan-born"!
The Post and E-mail | Updated Nov. 21, 2009 | John Charlton

Posted on 11/26/2009 8:16:02 AM PST by Jess Kitting

(Oct. 14, 2009) — What most people know is that the Associated Press (AP) is one of the largest, internationally recognized, syndicated news services. What most people don’t know that is in 2004, the AP was a “birther” news organization.

How so? Because in a syndicated report, published Sunday, June 27, 2004, by the Kenyan Standard Times, and which was, as of this report, available at

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

The AP reporter stated the following:

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.

The difficulty in finding this gem of a story is hampered by Google, which is running flak for Obama: because if you search for “Kenyan-born US Senate” you wont find it, but if you search for the phrase without quotes you will find links which talk about it.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: africanpress; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; fraud; kenyadigit; kenyanborn; kenyanbornmuzzie; obama; recycledemail; repost
The original article is from here: http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/
1 posted on 11/26/2009 8:16:03 AM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

Oh good, this again.


2 posted on 11/26/2009 8:18:50 AM PST by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: Jess Kitting
Yet Congress and the Courts shirk their duties, while this usurper destroys OUR COUNTRY!
3 posted on 11/26/2009 8:19:04 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Jess Kitting

bump


4 posted on 11/26/2009 8:19:10 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Jess Kitting
If as Comrade Obama Jr claims his dad was Barak Hussein Obama Sr, of Kenya,
than it's not possible for Junior to be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.

At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emmerich De Vattel, (1714-1767,) Law of Nations, 1758, § 212, "Of the citizens and naturals."

5 posted on 11/26/2009 8:20:51 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Are we now saying that the AP has a credible fact-checking operation? Media is infallible again because of an obscure reference?


6 posted on 11/26/2009 8:20:55 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: Jess Kitting

Sunday, June 27, 2004

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/http://eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm


7 posted on 11/26/2009 8:22:18 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: ASA Vet

Have you seen a picture of Obama Sr? That was never his father.


8 posted on 11/26/2009 8:22:51 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: BenLurkin

Scrubbed already by the White House.


9 posted on 11/26/2009 8:23:38 AM PST by omega4179 (0 is an embarrassment to us all.)
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To: XHogPilot

bump


10 posted on 11/26/2009 8:23:46 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: AppyPappy
Have you seen a picture of Obama Sr? That was never his father.

Impossible!? That would mean Comrade Obama Jr lied about who his father was.

I doubt his mom even knew which guy was the father.

12 posted on 11/26/2009 8:26:31 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I agree. God what has our government become?


13 posted on 11/26/2009 8:28:09 AM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: Jess Kitting

WOW if only there were a not for profit website that I could donate money to the Childrens ward of Kapiolani hospital in Hawaii in the Name of the Doctor that birthed Obama with said donations only made available in that doctors name as proven on the long version of Obama;s BC I am sure the White House would never deny the children such a large and generous donation that the millions interested in this subject would happily donate....


14 posted on 11/26/2009 8:28:50 AM PST by Typical_Whitey (Eric Holder and Obama are making a mockery of our justice system.)
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To: Jess Kitting

But we already knew this...


15 posted on 11/26/2009 8:29:22 AM PST by babygene
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To: Jess Kitting

So why wasn’t Hillery Clinton on this like a bat from hell during the campaign?


16 posted on 11/26/2009 8:33:13 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: freebird5850
I agree. God what has our government become?

A trash dump for the insane and criminals. Few left that are conservative Constitutionalists.

17 posted on 11/26/2009 8:38:21 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Baynative
I was wondering the same thing. THAT is the meat and potatoes of the whole issue...yet those words do not appear in the linked article in the Sunday Standard article.

So...where DO they appear? It says "This report explains...". What report? Hearsay is not sufficient.

18 posted on 11/26/2009 8:40:17 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: Baynative

We have not been able to confirm this at all. Therefore we consider untrue, until it is sourced.

Without a recording of the debate it leaves open to many denials.

Also, it stretches credulity that Alan Keyes would bring up NBC, as it is not a requirement, so it wouldn’t even be a question.


19 posted on 11/26/2009 8:44:32 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ASA Vet

Not that I doubt you in the least, but how is it that that can be linked to the framers?


20 posted on 11/26/2009 8:57:16 AM PST by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Vendome

Has anyone just come out and asked Alan Keyes?


21 posted on 11/26/2009 8:57:50 AM PST by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: Baynative

ping


22 posted on 11/26/2009 9:01:07 AM PST by davidlachnicht ("IF WE ARE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: Blind Eye Jones
biSo why wasn’t Hillery Clinton on this like a bat from hell during the campaign?
In my opinion Hillary wasn't in it to win yet more in it to gain revenue off of the media frenzy. Obama was positioned to win all along, but as long as it was a close race (or the appearanc maintained) the alphabet channels stood to gain monetarily, thus the fawning media coverage for Obama and the Democratic Party. Hillary sits exactly where she wants to sit. Under the radar as Sec of State while the puppet President poses as America's First Black Insurance Salesman while foisting health care reform on the American people.
23 posted on 11/26/2009 9:12:06 AM PST by adabasdba
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To: Jess Kitting
From the article:

3. In October of 2004, during the ABC Chicago Affiliate’s broadcast of the Obama-Keyes debates, Obama openly admitted — he conceded — that he was not a natural born citizen. (C-Span aired the uncut version of the debates, which contained this exchange, in the second half of April, 2005)

So where's the tape? - Not what they say he said, but he himself saying it ON TAPE. Poof? Gone? Erased? Scrubbed? In David Axelrod's vault?

24 posted on 11/26/2009 9:17:50 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Nea Wood

Yes, I saw a video where keyes on camera says he just doesn’t remember. Might have happened, but he has no memory of it.


25 posted on 11/26/2009 9:26:48 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Jess Kitting

Isn’t the AP mentioned here the African Press not the Associated Press? African Press played with the BC issue and some tape of supposedly Michelle.


27 posted on 11/26/2009 9:34:35 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Baynative

Is that a personal comment or is it something that can be sourced?


That comment has been denied by the keyes camp here on FR. I can’t give you a link.


28 posted on 11/26/2009 9:37:31 AM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: freebird5850

Curiously, the fellow from the time haf a century ago thet Hussein most closely resembles is one Malcolm X.


29 posted on 11/26/2009 10:01:16 AM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Logical me

AGREE, we have what our Founders feared. The powers that be, as crooked as they be, don’t want to touch this. They’d rather watch in their well funded comfort while their gift ship goes down. And what the hell is the deal with SCOTUS doing nothing - you’d think they were running the military operation in Afghanistan.
Hope to feel better later as the family celebrates what may be one of last free Thanksgivings.


30 posted on 11/26/2009 10:07:32 AM PST by mcshot (Our White Hut is not made up of the best and brightest, but they are practiced criminals.)
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To: sbMKE
>"Are we now saying that the AP has a credible fact-checking operation?"

Well, if a federal judge admits twittering as evidence?.....

31 posted on 11/26/2009 10:09:12 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: Baynative

I have read the article many times before. To what are you directing my attention.

Happy Thanksgiving!


32 posted on 11/26/2009 10:51:36 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Jess Kitting
This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.

All debates are videotaped. The author of this piece needs to put up or shut up.

33 posted on 11/26/2009 10:58:53 AM PST by Chunga (Being A Libertarian Means Never Having To Actually Govern)
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To: Nea Wood

Yes, what is Alan Keyes? A potted plant? That man is pretty quick on his feet. I’m pretty sure he’d remember that exchange and even have his own tape of the event.


34 posted on 11/26/2009 10:59:18 AM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: AppyPappy
Maybe it's Frank Marshall Davis, whom he really resembles, rather than Barack Obama Sr.
35 posted on 11/26/2009 11:55:27 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Vendome

Illinois Senate Debate

Debate - 10/21/2004
Candidates for the U.S. Senate from Illinois took part in a debate. The candidates are seeking the position vacated by the planned retirement of Senator Fitzgerald. Mr. Obama is a State Senator and garnered national...
Person: Alan Keyes, U.S. Senate Candidate, R IL
Person: Barack Obama, U.S. Senate Candidate, D IL

Illinois Senate Student Forum

Debate - 09/29/2004
Illinois Senate candidates Alan Keyes and Barack Obama took part in a student forum at WTTW-TV studios in Chicago. Each candidate had a half-hour to... met with the students first, followed by Barack Obama. WTTW-TV hosted the forum.
Person: Alan Keyes, U.S. Senate Candidate, R IL
Person: Barack Obama, U.S. Senate Candidate, D IL

Illinois Senate Debate

Debate - 10/26/2004
Candidates for the U.S. Senate from Illinois took part in a debate. The candidates are seeking the position vacated by the planned retirement of Senator Fitzgerald. Mr. Obama is a State Senator and garnered national...
Person: Alan Keyes, U.S. Senate Candidate, R IL
Person: Barack Obama, U.S. Senate Candidate, D IL

Illinois Senate Debate

Debate - 10/12/2004
Democratic State Senator Obama and former candidate for the Republican presidential nomination Keyes debated in the Old State Capitol for the Illinois senate seat opened by the retirement of Senator Fitzgerald. ...
Person: Alan Keyes, U.S. Senate Candidate, R IL
Person: Barack Obama, U.S. Senate Candidate, D IL

36 posted on 11/26/2009 1:06:35 PM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: Nea Wood
"Has anyone just come out and asked Alan Keyes?"

Yes, his campaign manager 'Eternal Vigilance'(also a freeper) reports that Alen, unfortunately, "doesn't remember" any such exchange with Obama.

STE=Q

37 posted on 11/26/2009 1:08:32 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: deport

Transcripts: from http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcripts.php?p=2


http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=367

http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=370

http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=373


38 posted on 11/26/2009 1:12:20 PM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: deport

Here’s a nugget from those transcripts of the debate:

OBAMA: I think it is an enormous problem. This has been the most fiscally-irresponsible administration in certainly my memory.

(referring to the Bush administration, of course!) What a darned hypocrite obozo is.


39 posted on 11/26/2009 2:45:23 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: Catsrus

Obama can be a smooth talker when he’s got his material memorized.


40 posted on 11/26/2009 2:54:41 PM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: deport

which video has Alan Keyes exclaiming Barry O. isn’t even NBC?

I can watch them all later if you are just pointing them out for my reference but, I have to slay a turkey right now.

Happy Thanksgiving.


41 posted on 11/26/2009 4:15:52 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

which video has Alan Keyes exclaiming Barry O. isn’t even NBC?


None that I know of. I posted the videos and transcript links for those advocating the Keyes/Obama discourse to find it and link it for us. Everything I’ve read says keyes never had the exchange. Nobody has ever come up with a video or quote from the transcripts that say differently. Yet the crap is posted as if it happened. It now has an internet life of of it’s own as if it was the truth.


42 posted on 11/26/2009 4:20:59 PM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: deport

Yep. I have never been able to prove Barry O. said that either.

Then again, I can’t prove where he was born. LOL.

I am still going to listen to debates anyway. Why? I ate to much and I may be a glutton for punishment.


43 posted on 11/26/2009 6:50:11 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

Transcript links a few post down if you don’t want to listen.


44 posted on 11/26/2009 6:52:24 PM PST by deport (97 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: adabasdba

Interesting. But I saw a short clip on this site or Youtube where a democrat lawyer during the Obama/Hillery runoff made the claim that Obama was not natural born citizen. The Birther’s probably picked up on that but the lawyer, I was told, worked for Clintons. Secondly, why would the Clintons be up for letting Obama win when they could gain even more prestige and power, not to mention make history as the first husband and wife presidency and first woman president of the US? As well, the Clintons went into debt during the race and had to rely on Obama to bail them out (his first bailout, no doubt). It seems too big of a risk to get that far in debt (11 million) — or maybe not, because Lou Dobbs was given 8 or 6 million for leaving CNN. This is peanuts for some people.


45 posted on 11/26/2009 8:28:25 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Jess Kitting

btt


46 posted on 11/26/2009 9:05:10 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: oprahstheantichrist
Chapters 1 & 2 should prove to be interesting.

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47 posted on 11/27/2009 9:15:42 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Jess Kitting

NPR archive describes Obama as ‘Kenyan-born’
April 9, 2010 12:12:02 AM EDT · by RobinMasters · 8 replies · 243+ views
WorldNetDaily ^ | APRIL 8, 2010 | Bob Unruh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2489546/posts


48 posted on 04/08/2010 9:29:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Yet Congress and the Courts shirk their duties,

They want this


49 posted on 04/08/2010 10:00:06 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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