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Kill the Bills. Do Health Reform Right.... Charles Krauthammer
NRO ^ | 27 Nov 2009 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 11/27/2009 8:18:35 AM PST by Rummyfan

Edited on 11/27/2009 9:21:43 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The United States has the best health care in the world

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1 posted on 11/27/2009 8:18:35 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Makes my blood boil! I’m about ready to start the Second Revolution....


2 posted on 11/27/2009 8:20:18 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan
Insuring the uninsured is a moral imperative.

Why?

3 posted on 11/27/2009 8:21:00 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: Rummyfan

The ONLY way to do reform “right” would be to remove the government completely from our health care. The government are who screwed it up in the first place with all their rules and regulations.


4 posted on 11/27/2009 8:23:11 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Rummyfan
Third, tax employer-provided health insurance. This is an accrued inefficiency of 65 years, an accident of World War II wage controls. It creates a $250 billion annual loss of federal revenues — the largest tax break for individuals in the entire federal budget.

Charles is a RINO.

5 posted on 11/27/2009 8:26:52 AM PST by kabar
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6 posted on 11/27/2009 8:27:00 AM PST by xeno
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To: Rummyfan
Second, even more simple and simplifying, abolish the prohibition against buying health insurance across state lines.

I'm leery of the potential for unintended consequences from this one. What resulted from the abolishment of interstate banking was the creation of a few mega-banks whose bad behavior led to the present financial crisis. The advent of giant-sized insurance companies could well have similar long-term consequences.

7 posted on 11/27/2009 8:34:06 AM PST by r9etb
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Insuring the uninsured is a moral imperative. Why?

It's a fair question. We can approach the answer by asking a different question: is there a moral imperative to save a drowning man if you're able to do so; or to help a woman who is being raped?

You know that the answer to those is "yes."

What about the child whose illness could be cured, except that she lacks the financial means to pay? Forget about the manner in which the child is helped for the moment ... is there not a moral imperative to help her?

8 posted on 11/27/2009 8:38:47 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Auto insurance is available across state lines, which has reduced prices and doesn’t seem to have created any monstrously large, evil insurance companies.


9 posted on 11/27/2009 8:40:49 AM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: r9etb
We can approach the answer by asking a different question: is there a moral imperative to save a drowning man if you're able to do so; or to help a woman who is being raped? You know that the answer to those is "yes."

Surely you're not serious. There is no moral imperative to save someone in peril simply because you're able to do so. You cannot be certain you are able, first of all.

Let's take the woman being raped. You decide to intervene not knowing the rapist has a knife about to slice your liver. Who cares? Never mind your own future, your own family, this strange woman and her (possible) loved ones are more important, they're worth risking your life. Never mind your kids being orphaned, your spouse heartbroken.

I'd say that helping (or attempting to help) a stranger about to be raped is a moral option, and to deny anyone that choice by calling it an imperative is absolutely depraved.

Why is anyone else's life, anyone's, worth risking your own? Because it isn't your own, that makes it more valuable somehow?

10 posted on 11/27/2009 8:53:41 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (LIBERTY)
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To: xeno

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/21/video-let-them-eat-painkillers/


11 posted on 11/27/2009 9:01:21 AM PST by danamco
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To: Rummyfan

Here you have it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk&feature=player_embedded


12 posted on 11/27/2009 9:03:08 AM PST by danamco
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Exactly the question I want him to answer with MORE details. I agree with you! A large percentage of the uninsured are uninsured by choice, not due to cost. They have their luxury list- cars, phones, TV’s, clothes, etc. and KNOW that if they are in need of medical care, they can get it for little or nothing and then sue if there are any problems and make money!! This is a moral and ethical problem in America right now. I’m 55 and my parents drilled into our family that you are never without health insurance before I was a teenager. I lusted for something to keep up with the Jones’ that I thought I should have and after understanding that if I had the choice to get insurance or “things” and if an illness happened it could take us down to nothing, I felt foolish to want something that I didn’t NEED. My family learned early as my little sister died and my dad had a life insurance policy for all of us as they could not afford a funeral service! I remember hearing the insurance man talking to my parents when he gave them the check as my parents and grandparents wept. I was 7 years old.

I’ve been to ER’s several times and there seem to be more uninsured, non-English speaking, no local address patients—which means I wait and also pay their way!! They simply do not care! Our tax dollars pay for taxis to drop off mothers and babies we paid for at bus stops where no bill can be sent!!! We’d simply be amazed and maybe blown out of our couch potato status if we had reports from the ER check-in desk. Simply speaking, there are not more than a handfull of people that could not afford $60/month for catastrophic coverage and pay a little a month/week to a doctor for services rendered. Most doctors already have a percentage of their care as donation of services anyway!

Why should I, as someone who sacrificed lots of money to make sure I had health insurance all my life pay for those who simply do not want to spend money for this expense in their life??? Why should I pay, Mr. Krauthammer?

Although my parents were only money rich for the last couple of years of their life, I am so proud to be from a family where the government didn’t take care of my grandparents, parents and God-willing my husband and me.

For a vote and power we have thrown away moral and ethical values as well as undefined who government is and where their handouts come from. Thank you leaders in government, government workers, teachers, union leaders/workers, etc. ..all the while only wanting power and status versus the Christian way of living. One solice I have....I have to stand in front of my maker one day and answer to my irresponsiblities here on Earth.


13 posted on 11/27/2009 9:03:59 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: r9etb
abolish the prohibition against buying health insurance across state lines.

I'd rather see them abolish mandated benefits.

14 posted on 11/27/2009 9:07:11 AM PST by maryz
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In addition to what I wrote, I forgot about this. So many people don’t realize that mandated benefits drive up the costs of insurance plans. We have a private policy and even though we don’t need maternity coverage we have to have it!


15 posted on 11/27/2009 9:13:28 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: maryz

In addition to what I wrote, I forgot about this. So many people don’t realize that mandated benefits drive up the costs of insurance plans. We have a private policy and even though we don’t need maternity coverage we have to have it!


16 posted on 11/27/2009 9:14:41 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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Rather than remove the employer tax break, why not give the same break to individuals?


17 posted on 11/27/2009 9:15:06 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: r9etb
Forget about the manner in which the child is helped for the moment ...

Right -- too many people IMO forget the real distinction between health insurance and actual medical care. A WSJ column suggested free clinics for the poor. At least one conservative economist (Friedman, I think) writes about the distortion and increased costs imposed by medical insurance overall.

18 posted on 11/27/2009 9:16:00 AM PST by maryz
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too many people IMO forget the real distinction between health insurance and actual medical care

Yep.

19 posted on 11/27/2009 9:18:53 AM PST by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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Saving those in danger sounds good on the surface, but insuring the uninsured (many of whom could afford insurance but don’t want to pay for it when there are so many DVDs, tats, piercings, beers etc. to buy instead)is protecting 100 women in a room because you’ve been told one of them will be raped.


20 posted on 11/27/2009 9:19:10 AM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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