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Suspect in Nazi trial proud of his SS service
AP ^ | Nov. 27, 2009 | DAVID RISING

Posted on 11/27/2009 3:34:31 PM PST by lizol

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To: Natural Law

Wars are won in the factory. It’s a simple fact of modern warfare.

Comparing the dynamics of how an F-22 (or whatever tool of war one chooses) gets to the front line and rounding of up people who are not producing weapons for the enemy is nonsensical.

Almost the entire German population of WWII supported, in some way, the Nazi war effort, directly or indirecty. Most supported it and actively helped.

They reaped what they sowed.


61 posted on 11/30/2009 11:39:43 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
"They reaped what they sowed."

Spoken like an anti-German bigot.

62 posted on 11/30/2009 11:47:59 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

So innocent:

Nuremberg held great significance during the Nazi Germany era. Because of the city’s relevance to the Holy Roman Empire and its position in the centre of Germany, the Nazi Party chose the city to be the site of huge Nazi Party conventions–the Nuremberg rallies. The rallies were held annually from 1927 to 1938 in Nuremberg. After Adolf Hitler’s rise to power in 1933 the Nuremberg rallies became huge state propaganda events, a center of Nazi ideals. At the 1935 rally, Hitler specifically ordered the Reichstag to convene at Nuremberg to pass the anti-Semitic Nuremberg Laws which revoked German citizenship for all Jews. A number of premises were constructed solely for these assemblies, some of which were not finished. Today many examples of Nazi architecture can still be seen in the city. The city was also the home of the Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher, the publisher of Der Stürmer.

During World War II, Nuremberg was the headquarters of Wehrkreis (military district) XIII, and an important site for military production, including airplanes, submarines, and tank engines. A subcamp of Flossenbürg concentration camp was located here. Extensive use was made of slave labour.[2] The city was severely damaged in Allied strategic bombing from 1943-1945. On January 2, 1945, the medieval city centre was systematically bombed by the Royal Air Force and the U.S. Army Air Forces and about ninety percent of it was destroyed in only one hour, with 1,800 residents killed and roughly 100,000 displaced. In February 1945, additional attacks followed. In total, about 6,000 Nuremberg residents are estimated to have been killed in air raids. Despite this, the city was rebuilt after the war and was to some extent, restored to its pre-war appearance including the reconstruction of some of its medieval buildings.[3]


63 posted on 11/30/2009 11:57:35 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
"So innocent."

I've read the transcripts from the Nuremburg Trials and agree that there were many unforgivable atrocities committed. I also believe that not enough of the offenders were given the justice they deserved, but I have as close personal friends Germans who suffered at the hands of the Nazi's and the Allied bombers. You might be able to rationalize the killing of civilian noncombatants, but I can't. For the record I think the actions taken against the Canaanites at the hands of Joshua were every bit as heinous and reprehensible as those committed by the SS and Gestapo.

64 posted on 11/30/2009 12:26:04 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

“For the record I think the actions taken against the Canaanites at the hands of Joshua were every bit as heinous and reprehensible as those committed by the SS and Gestapo.”

The Canaanite worhsipped the demon Ba’al Hammon/Moloch.

He is now know as “Beelzebub” in English.

The religion involved boiling infant children in their mother’s milk and burning infant children alive, so as to best mock life and G-d.

If you distrust the Jewish account in the Bible, look at what Plato said in The Republic as:

There stands in their midst a bronze statue of Moloch, its hands extended over a bronze brazier, the flames of which engulf the child. When the flames fall upon the body, the limbs contract and the open mouth seems almost to be laughing until the contracted body slips quietly into the brazier. Thus it is that the ‘grin’ is known as ‘sardonic laughter,’ since they die laughing.

Or the Romans, like Diodorus Siculus who wrote:

There was in their city a bronze image of Moloch extending its hands, palms up and sloping toward the ground, so that each of the children when placed thereon rolled down and fell into a sort of gaping pit filled with fire.

Diodorus went on to states that family members of the burning children were forbidden to weep and that when defeated, the nobles believed they had displeased the gods by substituting low-born children for their own children. They attempted to make amends by sacrificing 200 children of the best families at once, and in their enthusiasm actually sacrificed 300 children.

Plutarch wrote in De Superstitiones 171:

... the whole area before the statue was filled with a loud noise of flutes and drums so that the cries of wailing should not reach the ears of the people.

So do you still object to G-d’s instructions to destroy this civilization? Clearly should have followed instructions.


65 posted on 11/30/2009 1:01:28 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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"So do you still object to G-d’s instructions to destroy this civilization?"

So this is an early example of saving children by killing them and saving villages by destroying them? My God isn't that stupid. There are numerically many, many more children sacrificed to liberalism by abortion today than were ever sacrificed to Baal. This doesn't warrant or justify the complete destruction of every living man, woman and child in any country or city that has legalized or widespread abortion does it?

66 posted on 11/30/2009 1:24:50 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

No, it’s a partial destruction of an evil civiliation whose remnants plague mankind to this day.

If my ancestors had done as instructed, the entire world would have been better off.


67 posted on 11/30/2009 1:52:52 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
"If my ancestors had done as instructed, the entire world would have been better off."

No doubt the world is a better place because of your ancestors, but on some things we should just agree to disagree. Shalom

68 posted on 11/30/2009 2:05:28 PM PST by Natural Law
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