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Protestant Church Apologizes for Massacring Native Americans
Fox News ^ | 11/27/09

Posted on 11/28/2009 9:49:24 AM PST by Ge0ffrey

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To: RC2

“Are they feeling guilty about what someone did 400 years ago”

I don’t think it has anything to do with guilt, I think it is rooted in conceit and vanity, they are saying... look, we are much better than those who killed.

If they looked around they might see their transgressions as well as injustices to be opposed, but to apologize for THEIR transgressions and stand against injustices being perpetrated NOW would be like hard, man.... they might even face persecution.


41 posted on 11/28/2009 10:42:29 AM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

I love the way Diana Gabaldon handled this in her Outlander series when Claire thinks the British would have been kinder to the Indians had they won the Revolutionary war. Jamie reminds Claire of Culloden and the way the Scottish clans were wiped out by the English. It was the most non-PC thing I’ve read in ages concerning the Indians.

These people and their apologies. I saw the sense in it when the Pope apologized to the Jews, but this is just nonsense.


42 posted on 11/28/2009 10:42:56 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Since 2009-07-21

Beat me by thaaat much, I agree with you.


43 posted on 11/28/2009 10:44:48 AM PST by Peter Horry (Those who aren't responsible always know best.)
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To: J40000
Oh, because they saw people who LOOKED different than they did and being the WHITE RACISTS that all white folks are, let their homicidal tendencies take over and the ‘hacking’ began! Jolly good fun for people who had NOTHING ELSE to do

No.

Because of that little thing they called: Manifest Destiny assumption long before it was given a name.

It was all about land.

44 posted on 11/28/2009 10:45:19 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Since 2009-07-21

Hahaha. “You are a very bad man. Very bad!”.


45 posted on 11/28/2009 10:45:20 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: RC2
yep - else, if we keep gong down this road, I'm suing the English Crown that persecuted and took my ancestors lands because they refused to be good little Church of Englanders - after all, that was only 400 years ago.
46 posted on 11/28/2009 10:48:08 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Popman

Ever crack a book? It might help to learn something once in awhile.


47 posted on 11/28/2009 10:52:12 AM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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To: Ge0ffrey
This is another liberal feel good apology. It is the height of arrogance to apologize for things in which you are not personally involved. It is a way of saying, “Look how morally superior and enlightened than I am than those immoral and sinful people back then. If you could resurrect those members that lived back then, they would probably say, “Hell no! I ain't sorry.” Liberalism, in all its forms, it a mental disorder.
48 posted on 11/28/2009 10:52:28 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: maine-iac7

*cough* Knew I shouldn’t attempt math before morning coffee. I stand corrected.


49 posted on 11/28/2009 10:54:44 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: SunkenCiv

rofl *ping* .....hmmmmm


50 posted on 11/28/2009 11:01:33 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: oblomov
Maybe, after they cut open his gut while he was still alive, and poured hot coals in

Hmmm - not like our 'civilized' European ancestors.

I had an English ancestor - a Knight, who was 'hung, drawn and quartered' (for his lands) - a common method of killing then.

That's how Wallace "Braveheart' died also.

It consisted of first hanging until almost dead, taken down while still conscience, slit open, guts piled on top and set afire - then cut into 4 pieces (quartered)...those that didn't get mounted on a spike at the city gates = the spike driven up through the nether region...and people were still being burned at the stake in England 400 years ago.

Yeah, the great civilized folk from the old world -

It's not a matter of ethnicity. Wherever man has been able to practice barbarity unfettered, it has been practiced.

51 posted on 11/28/2009 11:01:37 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Popman; RowdyFFC
'cause that is probably the dumbest thing I read in years.

Roger that.

52 posted on 11/28/2009 11:03:31 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: kingu

been there, done that

53 posted on 11/28/2009 11:07:11 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

Again, ever crack a book? It’s amazing what facts you can find there.


54 posted on 11/28/2009 11:08:30 AM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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To: RowdyFFC
Actually, I have read several books on the early American Indian during the pre-Colonial times and have never read anything remotely related to your post.

If what you posted is considered "learning" than I will blissfully remain ignorant.

55 posted on 11/28/2009 11:10:31 AM PST by Popman
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To: maine-iac7

I don’t think it’s the Indian tribes anymore. More like the forked-tongue tribes


56 posted on 11/28/2009 11:16:11 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: RowdyFFC
Oh, and while you are at it, there is this thing called "Google" and now a thing called "Bing" great resources for finding stuff.

I can't find anywhere where " because ‘first American’ women were genetically flawed from there being no substitution for mother’s milk and they nursed their babies for years, depleting their immune systems." ...........so point me in the right direction.

57 posted on 11/28/2009 11:18:49 AM PST by Popman
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To: RowdyFFC
Again, ever crack a book? It’s amazing what facts you can find there.

Well, now, a few - over the course of 70+ years - and studying researching and writing on the histories and peoples of Europe and the "New World" and it's peoples.

Mostly retired now, but I wrote on these subjects many times and I prided myself on cross checking sources and not just supposing, or going on assumptions. (Unlike you, assuming that I and other posters are illiterate, as apposed to yourself.)

58 posted on 11/28/2009 11:25:54 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: RowdyFFC

Hey there Rowdy, not trying to speak out of turn but just wanted to let you know that simply nursing a baby for a couple of years doesn’t hurt a woman’s immunity. It’s been done pretty much since Adam and Eve. If a woman couldn’t nurse her own child, another woman did it (a wet nurse). If another woman wasn’t available, they turned to the milk of an animal (cow, goat, etc.).

Commercially made infant formula wasn’t available until around 1860 or so.


59 posted on 11/28/2009 11:26:09 AM PST by CarolinaPeach
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To: Popman

That’s ok, your reading is your choice, but there are many scientific treatise written on this very issue.

In fact, the first decimation of eastern ‘native’ Americans started in 1619. The Algonquins along were reduced from 30,000 to 300 and there were very few to welcome the pilgrims that landed in Mass. in 1620. They died from smallpox. And many of them died from syphilis and in fact knocked off a majority of the Europeans by the spread of syphilis to the Europeans.

From the 1500’s when the first Spanish explorers and their horses came to the US, the ‘native’ population was 12 million, and by the late 1800’s had been reduced to only a few hundred thousand by DISEASE!

But then you don’t get these statistics from your liberal public school teachers, it’s much easier to play blame games.


60 posted on 11/28/2009 11:30:09 AM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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