If members of this church murdered Indians I hardly think they should get away with just an apology. Shouldn’t they go to jail?
David apologizes to Saul
Standard reply to clueless libs: “Bull Obama”
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I am sure the Lenape Indians were using the Ghandi method and sitting still and waiting for the abuse to get over. They, as perfect human beings did no hacking, killing or destroying to the Dutch.
Why?
I didn’t kill any Injuns and I can’t answer for what my great grand pappy may have done.
Should we go ahead and apologize to the American Indians for not paying the proper market rate when the Dutch bought Manhattan Island for $24 worth of trinkets???
Umm, enough with the stupid white guilt. The indigenous people always get the shaft when a modern culture moves in, especially when they bring along all their happy diseases. For every person they may or may not have killed, they likely killed another hundred simply by bringing the illnesses of Europe to the region.
There. The truth, the bugs did it. Now instead of dreaming up new ways to demean everyone, especially those Lenape who shockingly have survived with tribal identity intact, how about spending the time educating the children so that the last remnants of the diseases brought along can finally be put to rest? Seems far more productive, and far more understandable than a meaningless apology for events that took place nearly half a millennium ago.
It was a war over territory as most wars are.
We won, you lost, get over it.
Even the vaunted Iroquois had cannibalism in their culture. Who thinks that shouldn’t have been ended?
Just wondering Rev. Chase . . . was there any GOOD that came out of this? You know things like REAL healthcare, education, a halt to warring tribes . . ?
Obambi must have convinced these people to say this during their big meeting of phony ideas.
Does anyone doubt that they were savages that started massacres very early?
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An Historical Address Delivered at the Annual Meeting
of The Village Library Company of Farmington, Connecticut
September 8, 1897
by Julius Gay
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Village Library Company of Farmington:
I propose this evening to give some account of Farmington soldiers in the wars preceding the Revolution, while the colony was still under the crown In so doing I shall consider the men of this village only, leaving out of sight the vastly, more numerous residents of the ancient town, which once extended from Simsbury on the north to Cheshire on the south, and from Wethersfield westward to what is now the town of Plymouth.
The first serious conflict in which the settlers of Connecticut were engaged was the Pequot War. This occurred before our village had any existence, but several of the men who afterward settled Farmington, and who here lived and died, were in the fight. That we may realize the necessity and the justifiableness of the war, let us briefly recall the situation. In the river towns of Windsor, Hartford, and Wethersfield were only about 250 adult men, and in the fort at Saybrook twenty more, under the command of Lion Gardiner. In the southeastern corner of the colony was the powerful tribe of the Pequots, under their sachem, Sassacus; further east the Narragansetts, under Miantonimo; and to the north the Mohegans, under the friendly Uncas; while to the west were the dreaded Mohawks. An attempt by the Pequots to unite all the tribes and wipe out the whites at one blow failed. The Narragansetts hated the Pequots more fiercely than they did the Englishmen, and Uncas was always the friend of the whites.
In 1633 two traders of Virginia, Stone and Norton, with six other men, were murdered in their vessel as they were sailing up the river to the Dutch fort at Hartford. Three years later occurred the murder of John Oldham at Block Island, and the ill-advised attempt of Endicott from the Bay Colony to chastise without destroying the offenders called out the indignant protest of Gardiner: “You come hither to raise these wasps about my ears, and then you take wing and flee away.” After the killing and torture of numerous men at Saybrook, and the roasting alive of a Wethersfield man, the savages proceeded to the latter place, killed seven men, a woman and child, and carried away two girls.
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When are they going to apologize for Roanoke Island?
In the meantime, spokesmen for several Native American tribes said those white people had it coming.
So were the Dutch colonists threatened by being surrounded, or is Mr. Holloway a quatricentenarian?
Irrational and sanctimonious scammers all, but a very interesting, if shockingly ill-informed, version of ancient history.
Dear Reverend Chase,
Allow me to give you some advice on how to handle your rather displaced White guilt: Purchase the heaviest bullwhip you can find, then, while cursing yourself with the vilest of obscenities, beat yourself to a bloody pulp, you evil White oppressor, you! You owe it to yourself, sir.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.Circa 1999, I heard a naive American pastor describe to his congregation a conversation he had with a Lebanese Christian clergyman. Upon learning that there were nearby muslim communities, the American pastor asked what they did concerning witnessing to the muslims upon which the Lebanese clergyman replyed nothing. The American pastor then asked if the Lebanese clergyman wasn't concerned that the muslims would go to hell whereupon the Lebanese clergyman said he couldn't imagine a better place for them.
The stunned American pastor couldn't imagine conditions in civil war Lebanon just as too many today cannot imagine what conditions were like on the frontier.