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CLIMATE CHANGE ROCKED
Daily Express UK ^ | December 2,2009 | John Ingham

Posted on 12/2/2009, 1:56:47 AM by ricks_place

THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a “load of hot air underpinned by fraud”.

Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as “climate comrades” keeping the “gravy train” going.

In a controversial talk just days before the start of a climate summit attended by world leaders in Copenhagen, Prof Plimer said Governments were treating the public like “fools” and using climate change to increase taxes.

He said carbon dioxide has had no impact on temperature and that recent warming was part of the natural cycle of climate stretching over ­billions of years.

Prof Plimer told a London audience: “Climates always change. They always have and they always will. They are driven by a number of factors that are random and cyclical.”

His comments came days after a scandal in climate-change research emerged through the leak of emails from the world-leading research unit at the University of East Anglia. They appeared to show that scientists had been massaging data to prove that global warming was taking place

The Climate Research Unit also admitted getting rid of much of its raw climate data, which means other scientists cannot check the subsequent research. Last night the head of the CRU, Professor Phil Jones, said he would stand down while an independent review took place.

Professor Plimer said climate change was caused by natural events such as volcanic eruptions, the shifting of the Earth’s orbit and cosmic radiation. He said: “Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past. CO2 cannot be driving global warming now.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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Pour more gasoline on the fire!
1 posted on 12/2/2009, 1:56:50 AM by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

Good for him.


2 posted on 12/2/2009, 1:58:06 AM by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: ricks_place

“The Climate Research Unit also admitted getting rid of much of its raw climate data, which means other scientists cannot check the subsequent research. “

This alone is a disgrace and should completely discredit the findings.


3 posted on 12/2/2009, 1:59:51 AM by headstamp 2
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To: ricks_place

Ian Plimer, a scientist with a set, just love it. Algore, can you hear the sounds of your false kingdom crumbling?


4 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:01:04 AM by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: ricks_place
Professor Plimer said climate change was caused by natural events such as volcanic eruptions, the shifting of the Earth’s orbit and cosmic radiation. He said: “Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past. CO2 cannot be driving global warming now.

Oh but we're at a tipping point this time, don't you understand? /s

5 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:01:11 AM by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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Beam Me to Planet Gore !

6 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:08:52 AM by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: ricks_place

“climate comrades” keeping the “gravy train” going. There all in it together, over there and over here. We need to bring these people to justice and put them behnd bars!


7 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:09:11 AM by ronnie raygun (Leaders who refuse to lead will be lead by the people)
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To: ricks_place

HOORAY Professor Ian Plimer! Thank you, sir.


8 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:11:30 AM by PGalt
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To: ricks_place

Next time a GW alarmist confronts you, remind them of this.

Al Gore says the polar bears are dying because of the melting icecaps.

In reality, it is exactly the opposite. Were the icecaps not to melt each season, the polar bears and penguins would all die. When it is frozen, there is nothing to eat. You can’t just break through six feet of ice to get to your food.

So, global warming would actually help increase both polar bear and penguin populations.


9 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:11:44 AM by UCANSEE2
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To: ricks_place

If man-caused global warming were a scientific certainty, they wouldn’t have to fudge their data—which is exactly what they have done.

I care alot about the planet I’m leaving my children and their descendants. But this hype is NOT about the environment. It is 100% about money and governments increasing their control of our everyday lives. Bottom line: the people pushing “climate change” are stealing YOUR freedoms for a buck.

WAKE UP!


10 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:12:19 AM by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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Algore, can you hear the sounds of your false kingdom crumbling?

You just know that Algore has a few secure communication channels that have been melting with hyperventilating screams over the last week.

Heck yeah, he's scared. He let 30 protesters run him off from a book signing a few days ago. Coward. Liar. Con-man.

11 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:13:10 AM by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past.

The opposite of an insane position is not a contrary insane position, but a careful and rational position. Either this professor is misquoted, or he is being hyperbolic. The current level of CO2 in the atmosphere is 387 ppm. 1000 times higher is 39%. While that might be fine for plant life, I can tell you as a former submariner, you start to suffer at C02 levels of 1%, and would not want to live at the level for long periods of time.

12 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:13:37 AM by AndyJackson
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To: ricks_place

Thank you, Ian Plimer.

And thank you, Daily Express, for headlining this.

Needless to say, the NY Slimes and the ComPost are not eager to admit they were wrong. In fact the Slimes was complicit, up to its armpits with CRU.


13 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:24:17 AM by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: headstamp 2

GIGO!


14 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:26:23 AM by Parmy
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To: AndyJackson

You need to reconsider your math.PPM does not equal%. 10000 ppm is equal to 1%. 1ppm = 1/1,000,000.


15 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:31:36 AM by TStro
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To: TStro
You need to reconsider your math.PPM does not equal%. 10000 ppm is equal to 1%. 1ppm = 1/1,000,000.

Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to look up the figures:)

16 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:37:45 AM by calex59
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To: TStro
You need to reconsider your math, actually. 387 ppm is .387 parts per 1000. Multiply that by 1000, and you get .387 per part, which is 38.7%.

Or to do it your way, 387 ppm *1000 is 387,000 ppm, which usint 1000ppm=1% turns out to be 37.8%

17 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:39:37 AM by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

1000 times higher is too high. Regardless, tree ring models are useless as demonstrated via “hide the decline”. The reason they are useless could be caused by rat farts in the past just as by humans now as the Goreonians insist. Bottom line, temps can’t be determined by them. Go back to the gravy train drawing board.


18 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:48:18 AM by rlbedfor
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To: AndyJackson

Pilmer is a smart guy. I’m sure he was talking 1000PPM where CO2 has been for long periods of time on Gaia in the past without runaway anything.


19 posted on 12/2/2009, 2:54:58 AM by jwalsh07
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To: ricks_place
Lord Monckton's awesome summary of Climategate.
20 posted on 12/2/2009, 3:03:41 AM by SFConservative
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