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To: MestaMachine

Maybe you’d get better results aiming your efforts at the voters in the districts electing the RINO’s? Do you know how or why a Snowe, Collins, Grahame or Spectre wins a majority of the votes even in their first election? If they get reelected via the power of encumbancy, how will screaming at GOP leadership do anything other than make you feel good?

Do you even know how Scozzafava got her nomination?

You don’t create something lasting by burning it from the top down. You build it from the bottom up.

Now I expect the tired “we have to burn it down before we can rebuild it” replies. I would counter with something about a baby and bathwater and the battle of the jingoisms and bumper sticker politics will begin again.


41 posted on 12/03/2009 8:39:15 AM PST by Bob J
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To: Bob J
Thanks for the sane and reasoned comment Bob.

I doubt there are any left here who will listen but it matters not. You would not be able to penetrate the hyperbole with high explosives.

Indeed, all politics are local and bottom up.

49 posted on 12/03/2009 9:01:09 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Bob J; Jim Robinson

“Maybe you’d get better results aiming your efforts at the voters in the districts electing the RINO’s?”

A campaign like this grows legs, Bob. It starts with the letters. It doesn’t end there. I am well aware of the phrase, “All politics is local.” And we have made great strides in reorganizing, and in some cases, completely changing our own local politics.

“Do you know how or why a Snowe, Collins, Grahame or Spectre wins a majority of the votes even in their first election?”

Yes, Bob, and I even know how to spell Graham and Specter.
Specter won because he was a democrat who switched parties to run in his first election, but he has always had the backing of the Philly establishment thugocracy and the unions for his liberalism and that has always been why he was re-elected as well. He was NEVER a real republican.

Graham won because he campaigned as a Conservative with a military resume in a southern state that is conservative and partial to the military. For his time in Congress, he stayed Conservative. The Clinton impeachment elevated his stature to that of a Conservative hero, and FR helped that.
When he got to the Senate, everything changed. He glued himself to mxxain’s backside and never unstuck himself. He can be defeated.

Collins and Snowe are from liberal states. So what? Liberalism in their states hasn’t helped them any. The message in those states has to resonate. Do you think they aren’t feeling the heat from what this administration is doing.
NOW is the time to strike. That is the beauty of FR. MEMBERS in EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY!!! THAT is power, Bob.

“Do you even know how Scozzafava got her nomination?”

Why, yes, I do.
She was handpicked by a disgruntled rino upon his leaving the chairmanship of his district, and in collusion with the o admin, to replace a “?r” who the o admin conveniently appointed to a cabinet post. The district party hacks knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was to the left, even of obama.
The RNC took up and supported her nomination, wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars, and you see what a disaster that was.

“You don’t create something lasting by burning it from the top down. You build it from the bottom up.”

The power in the party starts from the top down. You change things by changing the power stucture. You change the power structure by refusing to go along to get along, Bob. That has not worked in all these years and it will not work now.
We are not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We are rescuing it from drowning in the filthy bathwater no one has bothered to change...UNTIL NOW!!!

I think Jim Robinson understands this or he would not have sanctioned this project.

Anymore questions?


67 posted on 12/03/2009 11:37:24 AM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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To: Bob J

The RINOs have already killed the baby. Dump the filthy bath water and the filthy RINOS!!

Vote them OUT in 2010!!


68 posted on 12/03/2009 11:44:40 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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