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New Major Study Catalogues How Porn Harms Marriages, Children, Communities and Individuals
LifeNews ^ | WASHINGTON, December 2, 2009 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/03/2009 11:26:32 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: PackerBoy

AND if you read my post then you know I am NOT going to play


41 posted on 12/03/2009 12:23:04 PM PST by the long march
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To: brytlea
While your point is well made, there is something VASTLY different between a cave drawing (or the venus statues) and online video porn (for instance). I would think that men who become addicted have some sort of problem, but maybe not. Being a woman I don’t understand the phenomena at all..

How are they different, other than better technology? Addicted is really too strong a word. Let's agree that it can become a very strong habit. (There are no physical problems if a person stops.) Men have much higher testosterone levels, that's why women "don't get it". Men are wired differently, to take advantage of any opportunity to become aroused, which then drives them to mate. Let's say a man is on a desert island with a picture of Nancy Pelosi which he uses to facilitate self-gratification 100 times per day. Is the picture the "problem"? Is the use of the picture the "problem"? Is the act of 100 times per day the "problem"?

42 posted on 12/03/2009 12:25:38 PM PST by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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To: GonzoII

“In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.”

So are we proposing to have the government solve the problem?


43 posted on 12/03/2009 12:26:47 PM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: gorilla_warrior
"... a picture of Nancy Pelosi ..."

Thanks for that image. Now where did I put the airsickness bag...

44 posted on 12/03/2009 12:27:31 PM PST by kosciusko51
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To: SeaHawkFan
The women is asked, “How easy do you make it for your husband to have sex with you?”

The man should be asked, how easy do you make it for your wife to desire you?That may be a tough question because you see, men are wired differently. No DUH, and so are women. How many men understand this? Probably not the ones who view porn or commit adultery.

45 posted on 12/03/2009 12:36:15 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: GonzoII
So how do they explain the data showing a dramatic fall in sexual violence? Or did they... Hide the Decline? :)

New DOJ Crime Data Released: Rate of Sexual Violence Well Below Record Rates of Early- 1990s

December 17, 2008 - (Washington, DC) - The 2007 National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), released today by the Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), shows continued evidence of the remarkable decline in sexual violence in the U.S. over the last 14 years. NCVS is the nation's largest and most reliable measure of crime (including those crimes not reported to police).

According to the 2007 NCVS survey, there were an estimated 248,300 sexual assaults in 2007 against victims age 12 and older. That's a decline of almost half (49%) over the last 14 years, down from 485,000 attacks in 1993.

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http://www.rainn.org/print/389

46 posted on 12/03/2009 12:46:38 PM PST by Ken H
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To: gorilla_warrior

The technology is VASTLY different. It is not the same to look at a crude drawing that somewhat resembles something and an exact replica (a video) which looks exactly the same. Are you saying you are equally aroused by a cave drawing of a naked woman and a video of a woman doing whatever it is they do in porn videos?
I understand men and women are different, which is why I reserve judgement on the subject. I also understand that addiction may be the wrong term, however there are men who ruin their relationships because of porn. Why? I don’t know. I doubt all of their wives are frigid old meanies (maybe the man doesn’t bathe and has a difficult time finding real women who will have sex with him).
At any rate, I think it’s interesting that most of us think it’s a good idea to have laws against people having sex in public, but believe there is nothing wrong with porn. I don’t have a suggestion about what should be done about it tho.


47 posted on 12/03/2009 12:47:48 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Ken H

With that significant of a decline, I have to wonder if they changed what they are defining as sexual violence or if there is some difference in how they are gathering data.


48 posted on 12/03/2009 12:51:58 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: GonzoII

Duh! Do they even think??????????????????????


49 posted on 12/03/2009 12:53:53 PM PST by cubreporter (.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
The man should be asked, how easy do you make it for your wife to desire you?That may be a tough question because you see, men are wired differently. No DUH, and so are women. How many men understand this? Probably not the ones who view porn or commit adultery.

That's pretty much in line with the default assumption in our legal system that only the men are responsible for domestic/marital problems.

50 posted on 12/03/2009 12:58:58 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
One marvel of the Internet is the amount of specialization. For instance pet owners have message boards and one can go not only to snakes but to corn snakes specifically and post comments and questions on a board that only deals with corn snakes. If you have a eastern king snake question you cab go to that message board.

Sexually explicit sites have a labyrinth of oddly specialized assortment of prurient interests. If one wants to see naked pregnant blondes they will be easy to find and the amount of specialization goes far beyond that. One can visit sites that promote themselves as “art” or ones that relish being in the gutter.

While pornography is probably more harmful than common television I would argue that television dumbs down the population to a greater extent (television is still more prolific). Plus the overt, covert, and the subtle Leftist propaganda permeating the major TV carriers does great harm to the conservative and Christian morality cause.

I would prefer that Johnny College Student avoid passive entertainment most of the time but I would worry greatly if he spent more than 20 hours per week watching television or more than 20 hours per week surfing scurrilous sites on the Internet. I would wager than many spend more than 30 hours per week watching television and add some hours of Internet sex sites to that total.

51 posted on 12/03/2009 1:24:14 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: tacticalogic

Granted the legal system is not fair. It is also a fact that more women and children suffer financial as result of divorces then men. I haven’t seen a study, but I would guess that the “other woman” makes out financially in most cases.

For the sake of discussion, leave out people with physical and/or emotional problems which would include addicts, the actions or lack of actions by men are not the only reasons marriages fail. And men are not the only ones who will not examine their own “failings”. What does not help relationships between the sexes is that men will often whine about no sex or not enough sex, but never acknowledge that if the physical aspect of a marriage is not satisfactory, there are always underlying reasons. If a women does not desire their husband, there is a problem. Two committed individuals will figure it out. A man (or woman) who just wants their needs fulfilled without regard to their partner is selfish and should not be married.


52 posted on 12/03/2009 1:27:51 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: GonzoII

Bump for later


53 posted on 12/03/2009 1:29:00 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: brytlea
Being a woman I don’t understand the phenomena at all.

Men are simple creatures who react to visual stimulus.

Women are less visual but just as interested in the subject which is why romance novels are such hot sellers.

54 posted on 12/03/2009 1:32:01 PM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: Monterrosa-24
I too think TV, advertisements and the Internet in general have contributed to the problems between the sexes. “Women” on TV, etc. and how relationships are portrayed, including the physical aspects of relationships, are not representative of real life. Hard for couples to have successful relationships if one or more of the parties are thinking “I'd hit it”, and "it" is not real.
55 posted on 12/03/2009 1:44:11 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
It is also a fact that more women and children suffer financial as result of divorces then men.

What does that mean, exactly? In any divorce everyone involved is going to suffer financially. The lawyers will see to that. If there are any children, the the women and children will outnumber the men and as soon as that happens more women and children are going to be suffer financially than men.

I haven’t seen a study, but I would guess that the “other woman” makes out financially in most cases.

How does it work out if the wife is the "other woman" in somebody else's divorce?

56 posted on 12/03/2009 1:48:49 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

“...advertisements and the Internet in general have contributed to the problems between the sexes...”

I agree. Too bad that I’m hopelessly addicted to FreeRepublic.


57 posted on 12/03/2009 1:49:43 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: usurper
Women are less visual but just as interested in the subject which is why romance novels are such hot sellers.

The study also talks about women being more likely than men to start affairs with people they meet online.

58 posted on 12/03/2009 1:51:37 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: usurper

I don’t think women are *as interested* in the subject, unless you’re talking about love. ;) There seems to be a gulf between men and women in this aspect.


59 posted on 12/03/2009 1:53:56 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: tacticalogic
All parties in a divorce suffer financially with women and children usually suffering the most. I am not talking number of individuals and if you can't figure out what I am saying, that's ok. Lawyers are the @ssholes who make out and they often do so at the expense of the relationships between the kids and the parents. If the wife is the other women, she will make out (usually) just as if the other women is a ho looking for a meal ticket. I think we have serious problems in this country relative to marriages, what to expect and the acceptance of adultery. The divorce process and laws can't be defended by anyone.
60 posted on 12/03/2009 1:59:37 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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