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Palin: Obama birth certificate 'a fair question'
The Politico ^ | December 3, 2009 | Ben Smith

Posted on 12/03/2009 8:10:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it’s a fair question. That’s why the Founding Fathers put it in the Constitution.


81 posted on 12/03/2009 11:11:11 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Keep your dog. Get rid of a Liberal.)
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To: byteback

On her Facebook page she has been churning out essays regarding many issues - not that the media is reporting on them, but the PEOPLE are seeing them (her supporters, and the leftists who have subscribed to be “up” on what she is saying).

There was a VERY interesting essay written by her personal lawyer yesterday regarding all the ethics lawsuits that have been dropped.


82 posted on 12/03/2009 11:12:36 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Man50D

Well, he COULD produce it — he could release the long-form or whatever original records were submitted to the Bureau of Vital Statistics, but obviously he doesn’t WANT to do that. He has had them “sealed” — and I can think of only a handful of reasons to do that, and none of them good for him... (Except perhaps if it listed a different father that was a US citizen - but then we would’ve seen it all by now if that was the case...)


83 posted on 12/03/2009 11:14:45 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: caveat emptor; pissant; All

It is signed by the administrator and the attending physician. There is no mention of the citizenship or immigration status of the parents.

Joe Miller with Obama's BC

Joe Miller, from FactCheck.org, proudly displays Obama’s “Certification
of Live Birth,” which lacks certification from the attending physician or other state-certified witnesses of the birth, any alterations, the hospital of birth, etc. That remaining information would be on Mr. Obama's original birth certificate, which he continues to hide from the public.

However, let’s do some fact checking on Mr. Miller.

Now mind you, Joe Miller has NO document forensics experience or training from which to meticulously differentiate true from forged documents. Also, as a trained "journalist," he's learned to trust the sincerity of Chicago politicians at face value. BUT, he does have a Ph.D. in Philosophy, and that helps a lot in being THE confirmation source of THE document that reportedly confirms Obama’s birthplace.

Joe Miller and others at Annenberg's FactCheck.org were “chosen” to receive a copy of Obama’s birth certificate from the Chicago Obama Campaign office a few months before the election.

Unknown to most of the public is that Joe Miller was also a staff writer at the Mack Crounse Group, LLC of Virginia.


Known for their Liberal and partisan stance — just as Jeff Miller in his most-recent "reports" on ObamaCare, Pelosi's CIA lies, and his hit piece on Ron Paul — here’s a sampling of Mack Crounse Group’s 2008 political contributions:

SCHEDULE 5-E
ITEMIZED INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURES
FILING FEC-380206

Mack Crounse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, Virginia 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing and Creative for Poilti
Date Expended = 10/29/2008
*In SUPPORT of Barack Obama*
Amount Expended =$ 172,044.00
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $1,886,740.15

Mack Crounse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, Virginia 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing and Creative for Politi
Date Expended = 10/29/2008
* In OPPOSITION to John McCain *
Amount Expended =$ 10,798.00
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $1,886,740.15

Mack Counse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, Virginia 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing and Creative for Politi
Date Expended = 10/29/2008
In OPPOSITION to Elizabeth Dole
Amount Expended = $14,761.58
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $221,423.64

Mack Crounse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, American Samoa 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing and Creative for Politi Date Expended = 10/30/2008
In OPPOSITION to Saxby Chambliss
Amount Expended = $6,202.54
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $62,025.36

Mack Crounse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, Virginia 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing and Creative for Politi Date Expended = 10/30/2008
In SUPPORT of James Martin Amount
Expended = 24810.14
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $62,025.36
Total of Itemized Independent Expenditures = $325,392.03

Mack Crounse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, Virginia 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing Creative for Political
Date Expended = 10/28/2008
In OPPOSITION to Saxby Chambliss
Amount Expended = $31,012.68
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $62,025.36

Mack Crounse Group
2001 N Beauregard Street Ste 420 Alexandria, Virginia 22311
Expenditure Description: Postage Printing and Creative for Politi
Date Expended = 10/29/2008
In SUPPORT of Kay Hagan
Amount Expended = $59,046.30
Calendar YTD Per Election for Office Sought = $221,423.64

Generated Wed Nov 5 17:13:55 2008


Lastly, here's a recent Joe Miller nonpartisan & non-presumptuous FactCheck.org blog entry:

Do we expect this official statement from the keeper of Hawaiian birth records to quiet all the rumors, speculation and false claims? Of course not. We weren’t founded yesterday. In fact, doubters, we’ll get you started with a suggestion on how to ignore this latest bit of evidence. Fukino is willing to swear that Barrack Hussein Obama is a natural-born citizen. But that’s probably because (warning: sarcasm alert), by an amazing coincidence, someone named Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii, while Barack (with one "r" and not two) Hussein Obama was being born in Kenya, or on the moon, or somewhere. Does that sound adequately convincing without actually involving any evidence? Okay, then, go to town!
Update: The state of Hawaii has now posted the statement on their Web site — and in the 24 hours since they sent it to reporters, they’ve corrected the spelling error. Another excellent theory down the tubes!

84 posted on 12/03/2009 11:16:13 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

TREATED!


85 posted on 12/03/2009 11:18:27 PM PST by aruanan
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To: null and void

Very good news. Obviously, it’s a long way’s away from ever happening (not that it ever would happend)...but she would clearly have standing in an eligibility case.


86 posted on 12/03/2009 11:18:40 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: gov_bean_ counter; Go Big Gold and Blue; pissant; LucyT; All

In addition to Joe Miller, Jess Henig was also primarily responsible for vetting Obama's "Certification of Live Birth" at FactCheck.org.

Jess' VAST document forensics experience and training is outlined below:

Jessica Henig

Staff Writer, Annenberg Political Fact Check

Jess HenigJessica Henig earned her BA in history of science from Smith College, and her MA in English from the University of Maryland. While at Maryland, she taught digital literature and rhetorical writing. Prior to joining the Annenberg Public Policy Center in May 2007, she worked for the National Academies Press. She has also worked for the National Institutes of Health and as a freelance researcher and editor.


Nice hair, toots ...


87 posted on 12/03/2009 11:20:25 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why won't he just pay the $10 and show the darned thing? Or can he?

Obama can't do that...it opens him up to discovery to all his birth records and how they originated. He'd be toast - so in comes the forgeries he shows on the Internet.

88 posted on 12/03/2009 11:39:12 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s too late;
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/category/legal-cases/ankeny-v-governor-of-indiana/

This is what I was afraid of all along, that a case would be lost by incompetent prosecution and set a precedent that we wouldn’t see off easily. For anybody who can’t be bothered to follow that link, the result of that case wasn’t dismissal due to standing or jurisdiction; the judge found that 0bama was a Natural Born Citizen on the basis of shoddy evidence.


90 posted on 12/04/2009 2:17:39 AM PST by IntolerantOfTreason (The AMERICAN President should be an AMERICAN, NOT an AFRICAN-American)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Exactly! Critical thinking is absent from the majority of American minds. Dumbing down kids has obviously reaped the desired end and that is ‘the people will believe what they’re told’. CIP the White House continuing to promote global warming.


91 posted on 12/04/2009 3:25:43 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why won't he just pay the $10 and show the darned thing?

Because instead of a "Father" on the form, there's a Letterman-style "Top 10" list.

92 posted on 12/04/2009 4:36:29 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Great questions.


93 posted on 12/04/2009 4:54:20 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Although Rusty’s program airs live at 9 PM the station I listen to replays it at 2 AM. I make it a point to catch it every time! If I had to choose just one conservative talk show host he would most likely be the one. I like them all, some more than others, but across the board he seems to cover the things I find interesting and spends little time hyping himself.

Just one old person’s opinion of what’s on the air these days.


94 posted on 12/04/2009 5:00:35 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great interview, but Palin is pushing one of my hot buttons. The “allow to keep” argument needs to change to “not take”.


95 posted on 12/04/2009 5:13:10 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: DavidFarrar
The demonization of anybody that brings up the issue has been masterful. Even Fox News and Anne Coulter say its ridiculous to even consider.

I think it`s a legit issue as well as the school records! Just think that it`s a losing issue because the MSM has won on this one. And yes Fox news is part of the MSM now for the most part.

96 posted on 12/04/2009 5:13:40 AM PST by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: Friendofgeorge

This is an issue I’ve avoided because I figure if there was really something “there” - then people smarter than me would figure it out.

What gets me is this - everytime I sign my kids up for a sports league - or a summer camp - guess what they ask for?

I had one son who was large for his age and we were always accused at baseball games of fudging his age for an advantage.

So I started copying his BC to hand out to anyone who challenged us.

Now he’s 16 and we’re about to go the DMV go get his driver’s permit. Guess what they’ll ask us for? Yup - his certificate.

Everywhere I go - I’m expected to prove my childrens “legitimacy” with their certificates.

It REALLY is ridiculous that the President of the United States simply would not show his certificate like the rest of us do all the time.

I’m not claiming to know what is, or isn’t on the durn thing, but clearly he doesn’t want any of us to see it.


97 posted on 12/04/2009 5:18:49 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
" McCain's campaign counsel has said the campaign did look into the birth certificate question and, like every other serious examination, dismissed it. "

Yes, exactly.

98 posted on 12/04/2009 5:19:15 AM PST by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: Arthur McGowan
And how did Obama travel to Pakistan when Pakistan did not allow Americans into the country?

And how did Obama get a Fulbright Scholarship when those are not available to American citizens?

There are a lot of unanswered questions.

I've asked one that I don't think I've ever seen the answer to: "Has anyone ever checked Obama's mother's passport records to see what country she was in at the time of his birth?" If she was in Kenya, he couldn't have very well been born in Hawaii.

99 posted on 12/04/2009 5:22:16 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What makes this an issue is 0's stonewalling.

And Sarah rocks.

100 posted on 12/04/2009 6:12:22 AM PST by Tribune7 (God bless Carrie Prejean)
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