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The vitamin D miracle: Is it for real?
Globe and Mail ^ | 3-30-09 | Martin Mittelstaedt

Posted on 12/06/2009 9:00:19 AM PST by STARWISE

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To: goodnesswins

I changed to non-flushing, what are the problems with it compared to reg. niacin? Thanks for the info, help me out here on the differences...


61 posted on 12/06/2009 9:57:35 AM PST by goat granny
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To: hennie pennie

On the Niacin issue.
http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/niacin-scams.html

Spend some time at Heart Scan blog for a wealth of health information.

Make sure your VitD is D3 and in oil form.


62 posted on 12/06/2009 9:58:48 AM PST by Jazz1968
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To: Magic Fingers

Damn, I wish these experts would get their shit together so we know what the proper dosage is. They can be quite frustrating to us non experts..


63 posted on 12/06/2009 9:59:33 AM PST by goat granny
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To: STARWISE

My husband, my daughter, and I all see different doctors, who all recommended D3 for different reasons for each of us. I have not noticed “incredible” benefits, but I do think it helps compensate for SAD, and is needed because most of us do not get enough sunshine. Side note: My daughter read a book called: “Survival of the Sickest” which said that sunshine turns cholesterol into vitamin D. The brain, the immune system, and many of the body’s other systems need D.


64 posted on 12/06/2009 10:04:26 AM PST by knittnmom ("...only dead fish 'go with the flow'". - Sarah Palin 7/09)
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To: goat granny

I think they like to keep us guessing. :>)

Low sales dictate who gets the free commercials in the media.


65 posted on 12/06/2009 10:07:25 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: goat granny

see post 62


66 posted on 12/06/2009 10:09:33 AM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: Jazz1968; blam
I think it's freeper blam who's taking the time release niacin; I simply mentioned that it was NIACINAMIDE which was being used in trials with Alzheimer's patients.

Everyone should do their own research & consult with their doctor - GOOGLE:NIACINAMIDE/ALZHEIMERS

67 posted on 12/06/2009 10:11:09 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: goat granny

...Damn, I wish these experts would get their shit together so we know what the proper dosage is. They can be quite frustrating to us non experts...

I so totally agree. My doc recommended the non-flush niacin
as I can’t take any of the statins (muscle, joint pain). I take 1500mg daily. He said up to 2000 a day but with some foods I eat I only take the 1500 and have a liver panel done every 6 mos. With the vitamin D3 it’s 2000 a day. Hubby can’t swallow anything bigger than a baby aspirin so I buy the liquid D3. Anyone know if it has less benefits?


68 posted on 12/06/2009 10:12:32 AM PST by oldteen
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To: STARWISE

UC San Diego School of Medicine has set up an entire website now on Vitamin D deficiency. They are flat out saying that Vitamin D can prevent 75% of the cancers that we are seeing and are trying to set up a public program to get the word out.

This gives you a good overview. Jump to minute 6 for dosage if you are short on time, by minute 9-11 you should be interested/hooked on what they are telling you.

http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=16940

A quick 5 minute interview that gives a fast hint as to what has been found.

http://www.uctv.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=16454

Here is the main video on the science. 40 minutes – Technical but understandable.

http://www.ucsd.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=15767


69 posted on 12/06/2009 10:13:45 AM PST by Ron/GA
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To: STARWISE

bump for later


70 posted on 12/06/2009 10:14:06 AM PST by goldfinch
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To: ElkGroveDan; STARWISE
A couple of years ago a drug which my doctor prescribed for me was listed as having the sequestering of Vitamin D supplements as a possible side effect. I expressed some concern. He said no, it's not a problem here, here being the cloudy, rainy east coast of central Vancouver Island ~51° N lat.

He had just returned from a year of medical leave, having had chemo and surgery for colon cancer and was working about half time. I managed to keep my mouth shut, and decided to up my supplements.
71 posted on 12/06/2009 10:14:55 AM PST by caveat emptor (USA delenda est (BHO))
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To: chrisser
"So if I walk into a drugstore, do I just buy a bottle of "vitamin D" in some dosage that I can add up to the recommended, or is there some other qualifier or special form it should be in?"

Get D3. For best results, get the spray version from L.A Naturals brand. It has 180 doses of 5000 iu for $20 retail. I think you squirt it under your tongue. It is the best absorbed and the cheapest. It is discounted to about $11 on Amazon.com.

72 posted on 12/06/2009 10:22:41 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: STARWISE
Several fairly recent studies concerning nutrition and lifestyles suggest the benefits of living and eating like our ancient ancestors, that our bodies' needs evolved over thousands and years and some of the departure from the old ways have been detrimental. Getting less exposure to the sun after migrating north is just another one.

There has been a lot of debate over the years about how harmful refined sugar is. Many think it is one of the most harmful habits we have, as it is a highly refined substance unlike anything that was available to our ancestors in the quantities we use. A recent statement form the American Heart Association might signal that that belief has, like many before, finally moved from the "health food" believers to the mainstream. Here is a recent AHA release recommending reduced consumption of added sugar in our diets:

http://americanheart.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=800

What the AHA recommends barely allows one soft drink per say, so that tells us that most everyone is far over the new recommendation for added sugar per day.

I've thought for years that refined sugar will eventually be proven to be the most harmful substance humans consume sort of addictive drugs, but it'll be more years before that is settled.

73 posted on 12/06/2009 10:25:15 AM PST by Will88
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To: ElkGroveDan
“You know my mother in law has a problem with in-grown toenails, underarm itch, and and thinning eyebrows... Then this product is for her Dave,. You might want to get her a whole case of vitamin D because there is hard data to show substantial reported relief in all of those areas and more!”

How about jock Itch, does it also cure that??? LOL!!

74 posted on 12/06/2009 10:25:37 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: oldteen
"With the vitamin D3 it’s 2000 a day. Hubby can’t swallow anything bigger than a baby aspirin so I buy the liquid D3. Anyone know if it has less benefits?"

Liquid is best. Get "D3 Super Strength Spray 5,000 IU by L A Naturals - 1oz." at Amazon.com here

75 posted on 12/06/2009 10:33:46 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Spartan79

That’s actually quite interesting. I wonder if they have done studies taking hygiene habits into consideration. The West, especially starting in the 20th Century, has been increasingly meticulous in the pursuit of personal hygiene.

The following stats are very old (1985), but I’m curious as to why Gambia shows such low stats:

http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates25.html

Could it be a combination of: exposure to sunlight, hygiene habits and access to pure food, especially fish?

A lot of stats focus on survival rates, but don’t show number of incidences per population.


76 posted on 12/06/2009 10:34:21 AM PST by khnyny (The problem is Obama didn't grow up watching "Hogan's Heroes" (American exceptionalism)
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To: numberonepal
"If the FDA can't regulate it and the drug companies can't make money off it, then it must not be real, right?"

Close. If the FDA can't regulate it and the drug companies can't make money off it, then they will try to discredit it and outlaw it.

Watch for this in Obamacare.

77 posted on 12/06/2009 10:37:44 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Bon mots
In the same article I read that if you eat a Polar Bear liver, you can actually die of a vitamin D overdose.

I believe that's a vitamn A overdose that you get from polar bear livers.

78 posted on 12/06/2009 10:47:07 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: MinorityRepublican

Contary to what people think there really isn’t that much vitamin D in milk.


80 posted on 12/06/2009 10:52:17 AM PST by chris_bdba
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