Posted on 12/06/2009 3:25:47 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
I suggest you read the whole thing. The quote is in paragraph 10. (The oft misquoted quote does not have the word “youngest” in it) However, you should read the entire entry to see what she is saying.
In paragraph 9 and the preceeding table, she is making the case that infaticide is occuring in large poor families.
She is attibuting many things to poverty: ill health, malnutrition, violence, prostitution, crime, etc etc. She is advocating for smaller families via contraception to eliminate those ills.
If you read all of her writings you will find that she did not advocate abortion because she saw it as further violation of women by unscrupulous men (she was right about that) and a means for men to get out of responsibility for the consequences of sex.
What are you doing on FR supporting racism, eugenics, and abortion?
No, she is not advocating infanticide. She is saying it is already widely practiced. She uses the argument later on to buttress her advocacy of contraception.
Who was Margaret Sanger? Eugenics Society, life fellow. American Eugenics Society. Founder of Planned Parenthood. Head of "The Negro Project." Girlfriend of Havelock Ellis (eugenist) and H. G. Wells (eugenist).
Term "Eugenics" coined first by Francis Galton (Chuckie Darwin's cousin). It's really kind of a family thing too: Francis Galton Darwin Medalist 1902. Charles Darwin's cousin. Coined the word eugenics in the early 1880s. Founded the Eugenics Society (the British one).
Francis Darwin Darwin Medalist 1912. Cambridge Eugenics Society member.
Horace Darwin Cambridge Eugenics Society
George Howard Darwin Cambridge Eugenics Society. Charles Darwin's son.
Charles Galton Darwin Eugenics Society life fellow, vice-president 1939, director 1939, president 1953-1959, committee 1960. Chairman of Promising Families. Grandson of Charles Darwin, son of George Howard Darwin. Wrote for the racist journal Mankind Quarterly, which was edited by Otmar Von Verschuer (Josef Mengele's mentor at Auschwitz).
Sanger... Eugenics... so what, right?
Sanger is just so quotable...
"Before eugenicists and others who are laboring for racial betterment can succeed, they must first clear the way for birth control. Like the advocates for birth control, the eugenicists, for instance, are seeking to assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit." Sanger, Birth Control and Racial Betterment, 1919
“Organized charity itself is the symptom of a malignant social disease. Those vast, complex, interrelated organizations aiming to control and to diminish the spread of misery and destitution and all the menacing evils that spring out of this sinisterly fertile soil, are the surest sign that our civilization has bred, is breeding and perpetuating constantly increasing numbers of defectives, delinquents and dependents.“
It [charity] encourages the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant."
The Review printed an excerpt of an address Sanger gave in 1926. In it she said:
"It now remains for the U.S. government to set a sensible example to the world by offering a bonus or yearly pension to all obviously unfit parents who allow themselves to be sterilized by harmless and scientific means. In this way the moron and the diseased would have no posterity to inherit their unhappy condition. The number of the feeble-minded would decrease and a heavy burden would be lifted from the shoulders of the fit."
She founded The Harlem Clinic: 1929. The American Birth Control League. (precursor organization to Planned Parenthood) “was established for the benefit of the colored people,” Sanger wrote in a letter to Dr. W. E. B. duBois The Negro Project (1939) was promoted by Margaret Sanger to the influential within the African American community for the purpose of reducing the African American population.
Her other outfit the "Birth Control Federation of America" (BCFA) was vested with promotion of birth control and sterilization in the African American community. Dr. Clarence J. Gamble, of the soap-manufacturing company Procter and Gamble, was nominated to be the BCFA regional director of the South. Gamble wrote a memorandum in November 1939 entitled “Suggestions for the Negro Project,” in which he recognized that “black leaders might regard birth control as an extermination plot.” Gamble suggested that black leaders be placed in positions where it would appear they were in charge. Yet Sanger's reply reflects Gamble's ambivalence about having blacks in authoritative positions:
“I note that you doubt it worthwhile to employ a full-time Negro physician. It seems to me from my experience ... that, while the colored Negroes have great respect for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or less lay their cards on the table, which means their ignorance, superstitions and doubts. They do not do this with white people and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he can go among them with enthusiasm and ... knowledge, which ... will have far-reaching results among the colored people.”
Sanger knew blacks were a religious people—and how useful ministers would be to her project. In the context of summoning the support of "intellectuals" in launching her "Negro Project" (1939) she wrote in the same letter to Gamble:
“The minister's work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
From Dr. Dorothy Boulding Ferebee, “Planned Parenthood as a Public Health For the Negro Race,” BCFA Annual Meeting, 29 January 1942: "“The future program [of Planned Parenthood] should center around more education in the field through the work of a professional Negro worker, because those of us who believe that the benefits of Planned Parenthood as a vital key to the elimination of human waste must reach the entire population."
Everybody seems to have gotten Sanger's memo promoting "extermination." Is there a credible quotation of Sanger's that indicates she did not equate "birth control" with abortion although she spoke very freely of "extermination" -- a term most commonly applied to eliminiating already viable, living beings?
All PP is about today is abortion. When it comes to "extermination" it seems they've gotten the memo too.
She is commenting on the practice of infanticide and saying that it is more merciful to kill an infant child of a large family than to let it live. That is infanticide, no matter which way you slice it...and Sanger is endorsing it under the circumstances she describes.
Sanger... Eugenics... so what, right?
Who said that? If you wish to try to put words into my mouth, please consider that two can play that game.
I am in no way “apologizing” for Sanger. I am, however, attempting to steer potential pro-Life people away from making incorrect statements because it hurts the pro-Life cause. Sanger, IMO, was a racist and a eugenicist (as were MANY in her day) and that is very bad. But she did not advocate for abortion as a means to those ends, unlike many do today. She correctly foresaw that abortion would be used to exploit women for nefarious ends. She believed widely available contraception and reproductive education was a way to prevent that happening.
correction: make that “large, poor family”...she advocating snuffing out the lives of the infant children of large, poor families.
She is not endorsing it. She is using it to make a case for contraception.
No she is not.
But they don't worship the same God.
Muslims deny the deity of Christ. They believe in Allah, which is clearly not the God who so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son.
More than one by all appearances.
Yes, she is. She is saying that the most merciful thing you can do in large, poor families sans contraception, is to kill its infant members. That is infanticide.
No she is not. She is saying that how desperate families think and why infanticide happens. She makes the same case about prostitution and crime and malnutrition and ill-health of mothers. She is using all of that to advocate for contraception, which was her main gig.
Taking names.
>>>Probably because Wallace retreated back to religious mysticism. Have you noticed that the YEC’ers always attack Darwin rather than the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis?<<<
IMHO, Darwin is a well-known face upon which people can project their dislike of the idea of evolution, in the same way Sarah Palin has become a well-known face for the left to project their dislike of conservatives. Wallace was never given the recognition he deserved for his work, and he’s faded into the woodwork, so to speak, but his early work was as influential as Darwin. However, if someone would speak about a “Wallacite” view of the world, the speaker would also have to explain who Wallace was and what he did, and that would certainly suck the air out of that balloon.
Expanding knowledge of the universe has always been unnerving for most people, starting with the knowledge that there were other humans over the hill and moving along to other countries, continents, planets, galaxies, relativity, quantum mechanical properties, and, for all we know, additional universes. Every new scientific relevation puts me in utter awe of God’s creation and only bolsters my faith in God. Maybe I’m just stupid.
No she does not. She goes on to talk about mal-nutrition, child exploitation and neglect, prostitution, ill-health of mothers, crime ... all outcomes of poverty ... none of which she is advocating.
She used those as an excuse for what she had just advocated in no uncertain terms. Killing babies. You provided the link. Now read it.
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