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In planning the attack on Pearl Harbor, Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto was specifically thinking of how, 37 years earlier, the Japanese had surprised the Russian Navy at Port Arthur in Manchuria and, as he wrote, “favorable opportunities were gained by opening the war with a sudden attack on the main enemy fleet.” At the time, the indignant Russians called it a violation of international law. But Theodore Roosevelt, confident that he could influence events in North Asia from afar, wrote to his son, “I was thoroughly well pleased with the Japanese victory, for Japan is playing our game.”
1 posted on 12/06/2009 9:17:06 PM PST by Cronos
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quite an informative article...


2 posted on 12/06/2009 9:18:44 PM PST by Cronos (Nuke Mecca NOW!!!<img src="http://shiitehappens.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/bomb_mecca450.jpg" />)
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To signal his commitment to Tokyo, Roosevelt cut off relations with Korea, turned the American legation in Seoul over to the Japanese military and deleted the word “Korea” from the State Department’s Record of Foreign Relations and placed it under the heading of “Japan.”

To signal their commitment to China, Clinton, Bush and Obama cut off relations with Tibet, acknowledged control of Lhasa to the Chinese military and deleted the word “Tibet” from all the maps in the world and placed it under the heading of “China.”

3 posted on 12/06/2009 9:25:00 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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So Pearl Harbor was Teddy Roosevelt's fault. I enjoyed flags of our fathers, but Bradley's 'progressive' tendency to draw parallels between Imperial Japan's actions and America's history is growing tiresome.

Besides, he's been dining out on his father's bravery long enough.

No wonder he and his dad didn't get along too well.

6 posted on 12/06/2009 9:30:24 PM PST by skeeter
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NO.

I also have “read deeply” into the matter and he is wrong.

He quotes Japan’s words back to us to justify their attack on us!

Gee, why not quote Hitler’s words back to us to justify his declaration of war on us, England, Poland, France, and 35 other countries??? It’s pretty much the same, self-serving, words as quoted approvingly by the author in his article.

And why not? Japan and Germany were both Fascist partners in World War II.

Japanese diplomats walked around, comically, wearing Hitler mustaches.

Hitler placed everyone in ovens, Japan placed them on the end of bayonets -— laughingly -— to “toughen up their soldiers in China ———and now it’s our fault!!!

His father may have fought in WW II, as my father did also, but most historians view American diplomacy as a response to Japanese cruelty and non-stop aggression in Asia-— NOT the cause of it.

This author’s (James Bradley) article has the cause and the effect backwards.

WE DID NOT “make” the Japanese attack us at Pearl Harbor, a sneak attack, while we slept ———— they did so, because, like Nazi Germany, they thought the West would weak, and that with a quick strike they could dis-able our fleet, and thus our Pacific power, and have a free romp throughout Asia where,

as a Japanese ex-soldier told the Japan Times, about what he did in the Philippines,

“First we go into the village (during the retreat no less),

and kill all the men and boys.

Then we rape all the women, this takes a day or two;

then we kill all the women and girls so that there are no witnesses.”

Gee, I wonder why all of Asia his bitter bitter memories of the Japanese Army that still linger to this day ——— as do many Americans and British and Aussies.

I wonder.

Long Live the United States of America and never forget Pearl Harbor Day!!!


8 posted on 12/06/2009 9:35:49 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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We are in a much worse situation today than we were after the 1941 Pearl Harbor attack. At least the enemy did not invade us as we are today.


9 posted on 12/06/2009 9:39:11 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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My father was a ranger in Europe in WWII. Two of his brothers were already in the military when the pacific war started and died on the march of Battan. My family still remembers the price that was paid for freedom.
13 posted on 12/06/2009 9:59:50 PM PST by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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Hmmph, read more tomorrow.

I have run across the usual liberal suspects that say it is the US' fault we goaded Japan to attack, i.e. our fault for having the audacity to base our fleet there.

Should have cowered on the mainland I guess..

16 posted on 12/06/2009 10:33:45 PM PST by doorgunner69
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I read the entire article. It's quite a stretch to conclude that, by Teddy Roosevelt favoring Japan, they would repay that gesture by attacking the US.

In my readings, I have found that KGB agents within the Japan convinced those in charge to secure the oil in the Southeast as opposed to attacking Russia.

Japan's original plan was to assist the faltering Nazi war in Russia by opening a second front in the East. Much to Hitler's chagrin, they took the second option to secure the oil supplies, thus dragging the US into the war.

17 posted on 12/07/2009 2:29:37 AM PST by Texas Jack
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