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To: sitetest
The low polling numbers were not true a year ago. We can't hold elections every year. Obama did not tell us exactly who he was and what he intended, a lot of people made a very bad mistake and have buyer's remorse, and there is no way to fix that easily until the next election.

In any case, my point is that just as some Americans are more pro-America than others, some Israelis and more pro-Israel than others. I didn't mean we should tell them what to do. We can't even do what's best for America.

10 posted on 12/07/2009 11:09:34 AM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Dear firebrand,

“The low polling numbers were not true a year ago. We can't hold elections every year. Obama did not tell us exactly who he was and what he intended, a lot of people made a very bad mistake and have buyer's remorse, and there is no way to fix that easily until the next election.”

All true. And it actually supports my assertion that although we elect our representatives, they don't necessarily represent what we think very well. Thus, the distinction between the elected leaders of a country, and the people of the country, itself.

“In any case, my point is that just as some Americans are more pro-America than others, some Israelis and more pro-Israel than others.”

Not especially relevant. I made clear that I might not agree with every position that is a consensus view among Israelis. I merely asked that if I thought that I should defer judgment to ACTUAL ISRAELIS on these issues, would it count as being anti-Israel? You haven't made the case that it would.


sitetest

11 posted on 12/07/2009 11:31:22 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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