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To: fluffdaddy
Haha.

Socially liberal would be people who don't have issues with a woman's right to choice.

Socially liberal would be people who feel marijuana should be legalized (saving millions in the penal system).

Socially liberal believe in a person's right to commit suicide without government interference.

Socially liberal would believe in every consenting adult's right to marry.

The social conservatives seem to be the people who are able to pick and choose where and when the government is involved in other peoples lives. The social liberal wants them out most of the time. To me it's the social conservative that is the hypocrite.

20 posted on 12/07/2009 8:16:54 AM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne

Wrong. We believe in Judeo-Christian values which are the founding principles of our nation. Lose this and you lose your soul. No rights are UNLIMITED.

We have free speech but that doesn’t mean you can yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is no fire.

We have the right to keep and bear arms but that doesn’t mean you can keep a tank in your garage.

We have the right to do what we want with our bodies but that doesn’t mean we have the right to kill innocent human life.

And if something isn’t specifically mentioned in the US Constitution, that means that the states have the right to pass legislation regarding it.

Your “right” to an abortion is not protected in the Constitution.

Your “right” to smoke pot is not protected in the Constitution.

Your “right” to look at child porn is not in the Constitution.

Your “right” to to visit a prostitute is not in the Constitution.

Your “right” to marry just anyone you want is not in the Constitution.

If it is not mentioned in the Constitution, that means states and localities have every right to make laws about it.

There is always the Higher Power we must be accountable to. A society based on secular values and materialism is doomed to destruct.


35 posted on 12/07/2009 8:31:36 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
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To: TheSuaveOne
To me it's the social conservative that is the hypocrite.

Liberals seem to be in favor of government intrusion in all possible areas of life except sex and drugs. That's not necessarily hypocritical, but it does seem odd to me that these areas are picked out as the most important and therefore deserving of maintaining liberty.

If the freedom to screw around and dope yourself up without consequences is the most important aspect of freedom to you, there's something wrong in your life.

And, FYI, whether the government gets involved or not there are almost always negative consequences to such behavior.

Without the discipline imposed by social conservatism, which should ideally come from individuals rather than the government, the society will slowly collapse, making interventions necessary that will quickly destroy a fiscally conservative policy.

38 posted on 12/07/2009 8:34:25 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: TheSuaveOne

Says the anti Christian, Mormon, Mitt Romney guy.


41 posted on 12/07/2009 8:36:57 AM PST by ansel12 (They don't come any slimier than Romney, (in the Republican party))
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To: TheSuaveOne
To me it's the social conservative that is the hypocrite.

Nice. And to clarify, using your definition of "socially liberal" (as illustrated in your hypothetical issues), are you socially liberal?

45 posted on 12/07/2009 8:39:46 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: TheSuaveOne
The social conservatives seem to be the people who are able to pick and choose where and when the government is involved in other peoples live

Nope, turned that right on the head of the facts.

The Socially Liberal want to impose their moral views on everything from murdering children in the womb to homosexuality on everyone else. When the majority object to that agenda, the Social Liberals rush to the Courts demanding their personal political opinions on these issues be imposed ON the majority.

The hypocrites here are the "Social Liberals" who posturing as defenders of Liberty while demanding their narrow personal political dogmas on social issues be imposed by Court fiat since they cannot win at the ballot box.

49 posted on 12/07/2009 8:42:31 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Demand Constitutionality)
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To: TheSuaveOne
Your post is drivel.

Socially liberal people want the government to uproot conventional morality, which supports liberty, and replace it with an alternate morality that can only support tyranny. They aren't trying to get government out of anyone’s life. They are every bit as judgmental as anyone else. They just want government to judge those who disapprove of sodomy, drug abuse and abortion instead of sodomites, junkies and abortionists.

The pro-abortion and assisted suicide movements are a calculated effort to undermine our respect for human life and with it the theoretical underpinnings of a free society. Promoting drug use and promiscuity creates clients for the welfare state and drives up the cost of government. As costs rise so does intrusiveness.

Any libertarian who signs on for the socially liberal project thinking it can make government cheaper and people freer is a dupe and a fool.

There is no inconsistency in the social conservative view that government should reinforce conventional morality. That is the proper role of government in the classically liberal system. Government becomes tyrannical when it tries to destroy conventional morality and replace it with something else, which is precisely what social liberalism is all about. Social conservatives want government to reinforce conventional morality and refrain from trying to change it. You can't ask for a more coherent position than that.

Think before typing.

51 posted on 12/07/2009 8:45:45 AM PST by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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