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OBAMAS WOULD LIKE TO NEUTER CHRISTMAS
Catholic League ^ | 12/7/2009

Posted on 12/08/2009 7:03:09 AM PST by markomalley

In yesterday’s New York Times, there was an article about White House social secretary Desirée Rogers. In it, reporter Sheryl Gay Stolberg wrote: “When former social secretaries gave a luncheon to welcome Ms. Rogers earlier this year, one participant said, she surprised them by suggesting the Obamas were planning a ‘non-religious Christmas….’”

This same participant said that “the Obamas did not intend to put the manger scene on display” (this was confirmed by the White House). Indeed, as Stolberg wrote, “there had been internal discussions about making Christmas more inclusive and whether to display the crèche.”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue addressed this issue today:

Unlike almost all Americans—including atheists—the Obamas do not give their children Christmas gifts. We know this because Barack bragged about this last year to People magazine. So it should come as no big surprise that he and his wife would like to neuter Christmas in the White House. That’s their natural step—to ban the public display of Christian symbols. Have any doubts? Last April, Georgetown University was ordered to put a drape over the name of Jesus as a condition of the president speaking there.

If the Obamas want to deprive their children of celebrating Christmas, that is their business. It is the business of the public to hold them accountable for the way they celebrate Christmas in the White House. We know one thing for sure: no other administration ever  entertained internal discussions on whether to display a nativity scene in the White  House.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholic; christ; christianright; christisborn; christmas; islamist; merrychristmas; muslim; obamaregime; taqiyya
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1 posted on 12/08/2009 7:03:09 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
This is why the family is going to Hawaii. They don't want to answer questions about why they do not celebrate Christmas like normal Christian Americans do.

I once knew a Pentecostal Baptist family who did not celebrate Christmas with tress or gift-giving. But I don't think this is why the Obamas do not celebrate it....

2 posted on 12/08/2009 7:06:24 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (U.S. Out of My Doctor's Office!!)
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To: markomalley

Muslims do not believe that Jesus is God.


3 posted on 12/08/2009 7:06:44 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: markomalley

I don’t know what could be MORE inclusive than the Christmas message (ie the Gospel, the good news that Christ died for our sins and rose again). Disturbing that a Christian President would not celebrate his religion openly. Hmmm....


4 posted on 12/08/2009 7:07:00 AM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: markomalley

Once a mooooslum always a moooslum


5 posted on 12/08/2009 7:07:20 AM PST by 54skylark
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To: markomalley

I thought on a prior thread of WH decorations, that a navitity scene was indeed up.

??


6 posted on 12/08/2009 7:07:24 AM PST by prairiebreeze (God bless the Ft. Hood families, victims and soldiers.)
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To: markomalley
Every year a friend of mine who is in the Secret Service gives my family an official White House Christmas tree ornament. They make them every year and I have every one going back to Clinton's last year in office.

I wonder if Obammy is going to allow it this year?

7 posted on 12/08/2009 7:08:33 AM PST by NMEwithin
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To: markomalley

Now, why would a Christian family want to do something like this? Maybe because it’s NOT a Christian family?


8 posted on 12/08/2009 7:09:14 AM PST by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: markomalley
There's a Muslim think about days coined "Happy". Happy Brithday, Happy Christmas...are not celebrated by Muslims.

I had to research but I found an old "Night before Christmas"...and it did indeed say "Happy Christmas To All".

There's no way out...Obama is a born and raised Muslim...Christian?? Wright's church and christianity are miles apart and I believe Wright was a Muslim, too.

9 posted on 12/08/2009 7:10:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: NMEwithin

I hung my White House Christmas ornaments upside down on my tree. I thought it appropriate given the circumstances.


10 posted on 12/08/2009 7:11:00 AM PST by Lawdoc (My dad married my aunt, so now my cousins are my brothers. Go figure.)
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To: NMEwithin
official White House Christmas tree ornament

I heard on Laura Ingraham that the official ornaments were ones of vegetables, as grown in Michele's garden.

11 posted on 12/08/2009 7:11:10 AM PST by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: brytlea

0bama is no Christian. Going to some church does not make someone a Christian, esp. if the church teaches race hatred and “liberation theology” (Marxism dressed up in heretic pseudo-Christian language).


12 posted on 12/08/2009 7:11:33 AM PST by hellbender
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To: kittymyrib

The spirit of the anti-Christ.

1 John 4:3
but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.


13 posted on 12/08/2009 7:11:54 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: NMEwithin
Every year a friend of mine who is in the Secret Service gives my family an official White House Christmas tree ornament. They make them every year and I have every one going back to Clinton's last year in office.

From work connections, I am usually offered the opportunity to purchase one every year (I never have taken advantage of that opportunity).

Come to think of it, I haven't seen a solicitation this year.

14 posted on 12/08/2009 7:11:54 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: markomalley

Well, the islamic new year starts on 18 December, and the 0bamas will celebrate Ashura on the 27th. I guess they figure that’s enough festivity for the rest of the year.


15 posted on 12/08/2009 7:12:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: Sacajaweau

The British say “Happy Christmas,” not “Merry Christmas.”


16 posted on 12/08/2009 7:12:18 AM PST by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: markomalley
re: Unlike almost all Americans—including atheists—the Obamas do not give their children Christmas gifts.)))

This is weird. Is this something that comes from Michelle's side of the family?

17 posted on 12/08/2009 7:12:19 AM PST by Mamzelle (Who is Kenneth Gladney? (Don't forget to bring your cameras))
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To: DallasDeb

What a heart breaking disappointment this man is. Not really an American, certainly not even Western...


18 posted on 12/08/2009 7:13:36 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: DallasDeb

Someone pointed that out to me the other day.


19 posted on 12/08/2009 7:13:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: markomalley
The 0ne views Christmas as personal competition.


20 posted on 12/08/2009 7:13:52 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: markomalley; Quix
What an utterly incompetent administration. Hillary & her minions must be ROTFLOLOLOLOLOLOLing watching this pathetically out of touch group of lefty radicals stumble and trip through protocol.

HOW shall we do Kawaanza this year, folks?? HOW many discussions did they have about that? What is Oprah having Christmas At The WH Special for when the occupants do NOT wish to observe Christmas, much less celebrate it?

21 posted on 12/08/2009 7:13:56 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: DallasDeb
Exactly. I wouldn't want to get into the whole "Who is a real Christian?" argument with anyone, but it seems to me that a basic statement of faith: that Christ was born among us, is what Christmas is all about. If someone cannot bring themselves to aknowledge that -- to celebrate that -- then they aren't Christian in my book.

But I do note that Obama seemed to have a fine time taking notice of Ramadan and Eid.

22 posted on 12/08/2009 7:14:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: prairiebreeze

They put up the creche in its traditional place, but apparently with some Obama angst. (gag)


23 posted on 12/08/2009 7:14:28 AM PST by GnuHere
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To: prairiebreeze

The original article is actually earlier, I believe; there was a lot of negative comment when Desiree Rogers said this, and the WH had to back down and put up the creche in its usual place...this year, at least.


24 posted on 12/08/2009 7:15:10 AM PST by livius
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To: markomalley; nutmeg

I’d like to neuter the Obamas.


25 posted on 12/08/2009 7:15:13 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: markomalley
Those are some serious words -- DARES, in fact to the creative photoshopper freepers...

Just imagine what kind of tree ornaments they could think up, LOL!!!

26 posted on 12/08/2009 7:16:45 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Maybe they finally got tired of partying all the time.


27 posted on 12/08/2009 7:16:54 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: markomalley

This is just one more thing on the list of reasons to dislike the man, but honestly, I don’t care about this near as much as the policy disasters he’s bringing to America.

I can keep Christmas, and I don’t care what Obama does. That will be between him and God one day. As long as no one infringes on my way of keeping Christmas, I’m fine.

Obama is a scumbag. But his policies are what are going to impact my life, not his personal life.


28 posted on 12/08/2009 7:17:00 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: Mamzelle

I think it comes from Bambi’s Muslim past, unless Michelle was a Jehovah’s Witness as a child (a lot of blacks are). Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t celebrate Christmas.

However, her father was a big Chicago ward boss, so it’s hard to imagine that the family was JW.


29 posted on 12/08/2009 7:17:14 AM PST by livius
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To: kittymyrib

Bingo - everything they do for the traditional WH Christmas celebrations will be a charade and they will be throwing up in their mouths a little bit.


30 posted on 12/08/2009 7:17:18 AM PST by GnuHere
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To: markomalley
HELLO MCFLY !!

Barack Obama is not a CHRISTIAN, he is a MUSLIM

31 posted on 12/08/2009 7:17:46 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

The Obamas are always missing in action when an important holiday, especially patriotic or religious is observed.


32 posted on 12/08/2009 7:18:20 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: livius
Wasn't this originally from an article about Desiree Rogers which appeared in VANITY FAIR?
33 posted on 12/08/2009 7:18:34 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: livius

I wonder if Michelle wears a burka in private. sarc/


34 posted on 12/08/2009 7:20:27 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: hellbender

Just WHICH church do the Obamas attend? I thought that they were still deciding upon a church?????


35 posted on 12/08/2009 7:21:29 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: markomalley

A Muslim is a Muslim, and there is no Christ or should we say No Christmas.


36 posted on 12/08/2009 7:22:47 AM PST by YOUGOTIT (The Royal 100 Club is Acting the Same as the Roman Senate When the Republic Collapsed)
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To: Mamzelle
it's probably from his muslim/atheo/agnostic roots- no birthday gifts for Sasha and Malia (well, except for touring Buckingham Palace with the Queen's ladies)

no birthday gifts for Jesus either

maybe they will emerge from the Kailua compound to visit the little unitarian church on the hill where they will remember dear beloved Toot with Bette Midler music...... but maybe not

37 posted on 12/08/2009 7:22:52 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks being invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: hennie pennie
I think they are, with the same obsessive enthusiasm O.J. Simpson devoted to the search for his wife's "real" killers.

The church he attended for 20 years, where he was married, was the "Trinity United Church of Christ," which had a "theology" basically like that of Jim Jones' People's temple.

38 posted on 12/08/2009 7:23:58 AM PST by hellbender
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To: GnuHere; livius
They put up the creche in its traditional place, but apparently with some Obama angst

Thanks for the explanation. Is it bad for me to be delighted that a depiction of the coming of the Son of God and Risen Savior Jesus Christ causes angst for Barack Hussein Obama?

:^)

39 posted on 12/08/2009 7:24:09 AM PST by prairiebreeze (God bless the Ft. Hood families, victims and soldiers.)
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To: hennie pennie

Possibly. It was reported in the “Style” section of the New York Times, but I don’t know if that was before or after the Vanity Fair article.


40 posted on 12/08/2009 7:26:55 AM PST by livius
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To: markomalley
I found it...it's actually pretty nice this year. Grover Cleavland commemoration:


41 posted on 12/08/2009 7:27:44 AM PST by NMEwithin
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To: markomalley

At least they aren’t decorating a tree with sex toys like Gary Aldrich claims the Clinton White House did.


42 posted on 12/08/2009 7:27:48 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: freekitty

It could only be an improvement. I think that when women are in the private quarters, however, they’re permitted not to wear burkas...


43 posted on 12/08/2009 7:28:45 AM PST by livius
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To: markomalley

Obama and his supporters are humanists whose loyalty is to the STATE.....


44 posted on 12/08/2009 7:34:14 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Mamzelle

A donation in their names has been to the Human Fund.


45 posted on 12/08/2009 7:35:30 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: markomalley

The Obamas have the usual twisted left wing view of all Western traditions and religions.

Whether or not they consider themselves Muslim or atheistic, they have a misguided respect for all things they view as having been excluded from Western culture. And they wish to put aside all the awful trappings of Western Civilization.

In short they are dangerous idiots. Only a GD fool would decide to dis Christmas from the White House.


46 posted on 12/08/2009 7:37:20 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: Sacajaweau

The English say Happy Christmas.


47 posted on 12/08/2009 7:37:43 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: markomalley
The most inclusive words ever spoken on this planet Earth:

But the angel said to them,"Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people"

Luke 2:10

48 posted on 12/08/2009 7:40:29 AM PST by T Minus Four (Global warming is not science, it's politics!)
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To: markomalley
As has been said before, Pray for Barack.

Psalm 109:8 (May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.)

49 posted on 12/08/2009 7:45:05 AM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: hellbender
No, I didn't mean what church did they USED to attend; I meant, how come they still haven't picked out a D.C. church to go to??

Remember when they first came to town, that they just couldn't make up their minds?

Is Barry Hussein Obama scared to be seen on camera attending midnight services on Christmas Eve?

Hillary's gotta be laughing... cackling hysterically, hilariously....

50 posted on 12/08/2009 7:45:26 AM PST by hennie pennie
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