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I was just in Wray last week and thought I would update Freepers on a real life democratic supported, gov owned, wind plant.

Background- The Wray school district built a wind generator, which was funded in part by the State of Colorado and the DNC to tout/show off alternate energy solutions. It was going to pay for itself in the long run by selling the extra electricity.

In short, it's been a disaster. It has never produced any power. In fact, the district spent most of the fall trying to repair/replace the generator. When they turned it on this fall, it ran for a short period and burned up the new power head. It's still just sitting there - a dead money pit...

Of course I couldn't find a recent news story that covered this. I used a link from a previous story in the Rocky Mountain News, which has since gone out of business. Ironic.

1 posted on 12/08/2009 7:47:26 AM PST by PilotDave
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To: PilotDave

Fay Wray?
2 posted on 12/08/2009 7:50:45 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: PilotDave

These moronic wind generators never fail to make me laugh.


3 posted on 12/08/2009 7:50:56 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: PilotDave

I recently took a month to tour Texas. I saw hundreds of wind generators out on the west Texas plains.

Having seen others in Wyoming and noting many were not operational, I purposely made a count. It is not too hard, even when driving at 70 mph.

It is very safe to say that 10 to 15% are inoperative. Given an array of 30 or so, 4 or 5 will be still. I made several counts over a three day period and the results were always there. Lots of the wind generators just don’t work.

Boone Pickens was on Cavuto recently. He was touting his bill being proposed to convert 18 wheelers to natural gas from diesel. he has abandoned his lofty wind power scheme.

Wind energy is a costly fraudulent joke


4 posted on 12/08/2009 7:55:08 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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Just another illustration of something illustrated in Atlas Shrugged. The government and industrial looters just care about building stuff with public funds. They just want something to make them feel good about themselves. They don’t know how to make that stuff they build run or be profitable. And the evil part is that they don’t care.


5 posted on 12/08/2009 7:55:31 AM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: PilotDave

Some part of Europe (can’t remember where) gave up on their wind energy because it took so much energy to manufacture the spinning of the turbine compared to the needed supplementing of other electricity sources, it became unsustainable.


6 posted on 12/08/2009 7:55:52 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: PilotDave
Don’t know about the failure to repair this unit. But I do know that power demand has dropped like a rock. Nearest power plant is running at 25 to 30% capacity.
7 posted on 12/08/2009 8:05:19 AM PST by org.whodat
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I have driven by a forest of windmills in southwestern Minnesota many times and only rarely are all of the windmills turning. I have even seen times when not a single windmill from horizon to horizon was turning. Any notion that we can depend on wind power for even 10% of our electric needs is ludicrous.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 8:14:33 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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In fact, the district spent most of the fall trying to repair/replace
the generator. When they turned it on this fall, it ran for a short period
and burned up the new power head.

I guess those “Green” SEIU workers need to go back to tech school to learn
the basics of electricity-generating equipment.
(/SARC)


13 posted on 12/08/2009 8:16:39 AM PST by VOA (I)
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To: PilotDave

This is hardly typical.


15 posted on 12/08/2009 8:35:33 AM PST by DungeonMaster (camel, eye of a needle; rich man, heaven)
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To: PilotDave

I was driving to Portland a while back and passed a set of 18 wheelers. Three trucks drove by, each with one huge white cylinder. Another three went by, each with what looked like an airplane wing or huge propeller blade. It was huge. Two more trucks completed the ‘kit’. Eight big trucks came from Portland down the Columbia River Gorge, (Interstate 84), probably from foreign ships off loading in Portland. Does the energy generated from those windmills even equal the energy it takes to get them delivered?


18 posted on 12/08/2009 8:54:57 AM PST by sportutegrl (If liberals could do math, they would be conservatives.)
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To: PilotDave

bump to follow the debate.


47 posted on 12/08/2009 11:30:41 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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Same story with the photovoltaic array at the Denver History Museum that obozo and Tax Ritter used as a prop. The museum declined to fund it so a gov grant was used. The payback time is like 80 years but the life of the cells is about half that.

New energy economy my a$$

51 posted on 12/08/2009 12:20:21 PM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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From Monday’s Denver Post:

WINDSOR, Colo.—The Danish wind-turbine maker Vestas Wind Systems A/S plans to halt production at its Windsor blade manufacturing plant in the first part of 2010.

Vestas spokesman Peter Kruse says most, if not all, of the plant’s 500 employees at the plant will be placed on furlough. No layoffs are planned. He says the move is a temporary setback.

Kruse says the first quarter of the year is historically slow, but credit markets are also tight and gas prices are relatively low. He says the company is building up slowly due to a lack of orders.

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_13948809

No orders but old Bill Ritter is optimistic:

Evan Dreyer, a spokesman for Gov. Bill Ritter, who has promoted a “New Energy Economy” for the state, said, “Vestas is fully committed to Colorado for the short term, medium term and the long haul.”

http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_13947586

And from today’s Denver Post, Ritter will continue to throw more tax money down the wind energy rat hole:

Vestas Wind Systems is in line to receive about $6 million in state and local incentives at the plants where it plans furloughs or a hiring freeze, according to state and federal reports.

Copenhagen-based Vestas said Monday it would furlough the 500 workers at its Windsor blade factory in the first half of 2010. The company, which also has implemented a hiring freeze at two plants it is finishing in Brighton, has not indicated the length of the furloughs.

Balancing those announcements is the fact that Vestas is still set to invest $1 billion in the state, Colorado economic- development officials say.

“The furloughs for some of their production workers do not affect the support coming from the state,” said Matt Cheroutes, a spokesman for the state Office of Economic Development.

The Windsor factory received about a $4 million incentive package from state and local agencies, according to a U.S. Department of Energy report. The package includes grants, tax rebates and job-training funds.

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_13955791

I can guarantee you that once all the tax money is spent the $1 billion from Vesta won’t materialize.


72 posted on 12/09/2009 8:23:37 AM PST by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: PilotDave; All

COP15 Proposals – summary from AEP simulcast from Copenhagen today
(Americans for Prosperity) http://www.americansforprosperity.org/national-site

COP15 Proposals:
- Western Economic Tax of 2% of GDP
- Removal of IP/Patent Rights for New Technology
- US Constitution is “only paper”, so “Copenhagen Treaty” as been renamed an “Agreement” so Obama can sign it on Friday
- Words “worldwide government” has been dropped from the “Treaty”; but there are 700 new global gov entities created
- The “Treaty” contains extensive, significant details (currently not being reported) on establishment of worldwide government

EPA Endangerment Finding:
- Covers 100% of McDonalds (any fast food restaurant)
- Covers all Mining, Cement Plants, PetroChemical Plants, Refineries, Trains, Shipping, Long-haul Trucks
- Covers all Manufacturing sites of any size
- Covers all Buildings in the US of moderate size and larger which use natural gas or heating oil for winter heat
- Unions are advocating “global welfare” for the millions who will become unemployed “during this necessary economic transition period”

Rick Perry:
- 400,000 jobs will be lost in Texas from EPA finding
- Electricity costs will rise $1400 per family, on average

Steve (WSJ):
- In the 1970’s scientists & US gov provided extensive data that Global Cooling was occurring
- Global climate models cannot explain cooling over the last 10 years
- Only FOX News & WSJ are covering the ClimateGate Scandal


87 posted on 12/09/2009 10:06:38 AM PST by Nobel_1 (bring on the Patriots!)
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