I enjoyed this book; wanted to pass it along.
Posted on 12/08/2009 9:35:50 AM PST by Loud Mime
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B U M P
” This country and this people seem to have been made for each other, and it appears as if it was the design of Providence, that an inheritance so proper and convenient for a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties, should never be split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.”
And unfortunately, that is exactly what we’ve come to....”split into a number of unsocial, jealous, and alien sovereignties.”
It all made sense back then. But those were a hardy, God-fearing people. It still makes sense, but the founders never could have dreamed of the level of corruption we now face, and the fact that most in DC are lawyers, who have subverted, and otherwise twisted the meaning and letter of the law.
“This convention, composed of men who possessed the confidence of the people, and many of whom had become highly distinguished by their patriotism, virtue and wisdom,”
Patriotism = strike 1
Virtue = strike 2
Wisdom = strike 3
we are out........
“Patriotism = strike 1
Virtue = strike 2
Wisdom = strike 3
we are out........”
:<(
I wish I could disagree...
How well does John Jay thread the needle here! As it appears to me, the confederacies of which he speaks are those that recognize that all men are possess of individual rights as opposed to those that carry forward the notion that certain men, i.e. "Englishmen," may possess more freedom than others - the same notion that starved to death millions of my Irish countrymen, while the English feasted on Irish grown crops and livestock accross the Irish sea. Thus, to avoid alienating the "Englishmen,", he glosses over the issue by referring to the rights of "citizens." From there, Jay recognizes that, notwistandin an impulse to gravitate into confederacies, we have certain interests that we as a nation banded together to protect. And in so doing, he imprints the reader with the shape of the powers that the federal government ultimately came to be reposed with - common defense and treaties.
Furthermore, the A succession of navigable waters forms a kind of chain round its borders, as if to bind it together language foreshadows and imprints the reader with the notion that a national authority should be empowered to "regulate commerce between the states."
How well does John Jay thread the needle here! As it appears to me, the confederacies of which he speaks are those that recognize that all men are possess of individual rights as opposed to those that carry forward the notion that certain men, i.e. "Englishmen," may possess more freedom than others - the same notion that starved to death millions of my Irish countrymen, while the English feasted on Irish grown crops and livestock accross the Irish sea. Thus, to avoid alienating the "Englishmen,", he glosses over the issue by referring to the rights of "citizens." From there, Jay recognizes that, notwistandin an impulse to gravitate into confederacies, we have certain interests that we as a nation banded together to protect. And in so doing, he imprints the reader with the shape of the powers that the federal government ultimately came to be reposed with - common defense and treaties.
Furthermore, the A succession of navigable waters forms a kind of chain round its borders, as if to bind it together language foreshadows and imprints the reader with the notion that a national authority should be empowered to "regulate commerce between the states."
Indeed.
The founders understood that unity is strength, and diversity weakness. The PC-pushers have twisted this self-evident truth into an Orwellian lie, with which they’ve duped a significant part of the West.
In thinking about the founder’s fear of confederacies, we must consider that they were concerned with future civil wars between such confederacies. We fought one over slavery. Imagine another over state’s powers?
bttt
The storm clouds over slavery were in the air over slavery even when John Jay wrote Federalist 2. The founders were careful enough to limit federal powers enough that the war would not start for 75 years.
In 1785 Jay and a few close friends, mostly slave owners, founded the New York State Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves (see Minutes of the Manumission Society of New York, v.1, 1785). The Society entered lawsuits on behalf of slaves and organized boycotts. Jay also advocated subsidizing black education. “I consider education to be the soul of the republic,” he wrote to Benjamin Rush in 1785. “I wish to see all unjust and all unnecessary discriminations everywhere abolished, and that the time may soon come when all our inhabitants of every colour and denomination shall be free and equal partakers of our political liberty” (see John Jay to Dr. Benjamin Rush, 3/24/1785, Jay ID #9450). In 1787, he helped found New York’s African Free School, which by December 1788 had fifty-six students and which he continued to support financially (see John Jay to John Murray, Jr., 10/18/1805, Jay ID #9603). By the time the Manumission Society surrendered management to New York City in 1834, the school had educated well over 1,000 students.
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/digital/jay/JaySlavery.html
There is only one way back to our precious Constitutional Republic and that way is through Gold Almighty and His laws as described in the Holy Bible.
I consider indoctrination to be the soul of tyranny
Thanks for the informative and wonderful comments!
I enjoyed this book; wanted to pass it along.
That is indeed an EXCELLENT book and should be on the reading list of every patriot IMHO!
Nathan Smith
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