Posted on 12/09/2009 3:13:13 AM PST by Scanian
WASHINGTON -- After days of secret talks, Senate Democrats tentatively agreed last night to drop a full-blown government-run insurance option from sweeping health-care legislation -- a concession to party moderates whose votes are critical to passage of President Obama's top domestic priority.
In its place, officials said, Democrats had settled on a private insurance arrangement to be supervised by the federal agency that oversees the system through which lawmakers purchase coverage, with the possibility of greater government involvement, if needed, to ensure consumers enough choices.
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Hm...you sure about this? I have heard differing stories.
I’m not buying this. Somewhere there’s a trigger that will happen regardless. These idiots won’t bend.
I’m not buying this, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Dingy Harry tries to buy some votes.
“Oh, Senator Nelson, you want $200 billion for backward-running corn field pickers? You’ve got it (but you need to vote FOR the bill).”
I pray every day that this bill goes down in a simple vote. The Democrats will show their true colors when that happens, saying that “Republicans deep sixed the health of America! Bush lied, people died (from no health care)!”
I really don’t think it matters. I think a lot of Dem’s are going to jump ship and not vote for any of this - public option or not - given O’s continuing decline in the polls, especially just over the last month or two.
You got 55% or more who are opposed to this so-called reform, plus another 53% or more who disapprove of Obama, yet you - a member of Congress - are willing to vote for what he wants, even though it’s wildly unpopular?
Anyone who votes for this turd will go down, just like O, except two years earlier, in 2010.
I hope you are right, but so far the Democrats seem pretty intent on political Hari-Kari.
ANY health care bill will have the public option.
From the original article:
“At its core, the legislation, now minus the so-called public option, would expand health care to millions who lack it, ban insurance companies from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions, and rein in health-care spending nationally. “
And just how is this? Force all insured to pay higher premiums + cut pay to doctors + bury doctors with more patients???
Just askin’
It’s in the House bill, so when they have their famous “reconciliation,” the public option will simply come back in.
If you note, the GOP voted against dropping the public option, in order to make the bill totally unpassable; the Dems are just doing this so they can get it passed and then they’ll simply restore the “public option.”
But public option or not, the whole thing stinks and will control and destroy health care in this country if passed, in addition to sinking us all into even more massive tax debt.
This is a bunch of socialist BS for two reasons.
1. Any legislation before Congress is a government mandate.The whole purpose of this bill to to takeover the health care industry. claiming to remove the government run health care aspect couldn’t be more disingenuous!
2. Any federal version of health care on it’s face and regardless of content is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. This is the point people need to be driving home with their Congress critters!
To me, it looks like they’re still floating trial balloons. The Dhimmis are at odds with each other and they’re floundering around looking for something they can agree on. They really, really want to keep the p.o. - I fully agree with that.
“It’s in the House bill, so when they have their famous “reconciliation,” the public option will simply come back in.”
This is merely to provide “cover” for the so-called moderate democrats. A total scam.
At this point, the Dhimmis still think they can have it both ways - they can pass Obamacare now and have it half-forgotten by election time.
That sort of thing has worked in the past and Reid and Pelosi are trying to convince them that it will work this time. They refuse to believe that public outrage will last.
People don’t want to hear it but our own apathy has created a congress like this as much as anything else.
EXactly.
“People don’t want to hear it but our own apathy has created a congress like this as much as anything else.”
Thank the cowards at the RNC. They should have been screaming bloody murder over this. Nary a peep. Kyl is a disgrace of a human being.
That’s about right. De facto rationing.
“but so far the Democrats seem pretty intent on political Hari-Kari.”
Not unusual when you have a psychotic megalomaniac as head of the party.
The National Socialist German Workers Party supported Hitler to the end. Party members hoped they’d become the new Teutonic overlords. They had no where else to go and had to stay on the sinking ship because everyone hated their guts, except for a small cult of useful idiots. The privileges and honorifics bestowed on them were too hard to give up. It was all about vanity, one of the seven deadly sins.
The democrat/fascist party members, I believe, have the same dream. And they are just as vain as any member of Hitler’s party. Delusion runs deep in leftists and can’t be reasoned with.
So hari-kari it is. Enjoy the kabuki.
Thre are so many things in this administration that parallel Nazi Germany that it is frightening.
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