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ClimateGate Denial (Emails NOT Hacked and more to remember when talking about this)
BigGovernment.com ^ | 12/09/2009 | Christopher Horner

Posted on 12/09/2009 1:57:21 PM PST by Sneakyuser

There also is nothing in the record to suggest a hacking. Indeed, there is tremendous reason to suspect a whistleblower, tracing back the evolution of the demands for the information, the denials, and the information’s path into the public realm.

Yet whichever it was changes nothing about the substance, all of which is found in documents subject to the UK’s freedom of information act.

Which raises the second, ultra-whiny complaint sniffing about “private emails”. Actually, in looking into this I have yet to see one private email. So far I have only found more than a thousand emails subject to the UK’s freedom of information act, discussing taxpayer funded projects and professional advocacy. Someone might volunteer some of these private emails. And computer code, annotations, etc.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agw; climategate; globalwarming; gore; hadleycru

1 posted on 12/09/2009 1:57:21 PM PST by Sneakyuser
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To: Sneakyuser

btt


2 posted on 12/09/2009 1:59:24 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Sneakyuser

Been saying that all along.
Don’t let the ‘progressives’ form the narrative on this subject!!


3 posted on 12/09/2009 2:00:42 PM PST by griswold3 (You think health care is expensive now? Just wait till it's FREE!)
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This to me is an important tip that we have a whistleblowr. It's really unusual that a complete email file wouldn't have any personal emails in it. Sure looks like someone selected what was posted.
4 posted on 12/09/2009 2:01:05 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: Sneakyuser

Most current thinking on the matter is that the emails were harvested from an email archive server in potential response to a FOI request, and the folder with the HARRY_READ_ME.txt, code, data, and documents, were gathered up from individual computers and aggrigated in that same zip file.

Then someone at CRU put the zip file in a pubically accessable FTP server and someone else found it.

It could have been someone “fishing” around publically accessable FTP servers who found it, not a “whistle blower.”

Point is, CRU should know all of this by now, and have the IP address of the computer(s) that downloaded the file. It will all come out eventually.


5 posted on 12/09/2009 2:01:22 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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IMO the files would have been aggregated together by an internal whistle-blower, carried out on a pendrive and published from a public computer in Norwich shopping centre.


6 posted on 12/09/2009 2:11:51 PM PST by agere_contra
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To: Sneakyuser; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 12/09/2009 2:15:35 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Sneakyuser

More rationale to support “leaked” versus “hacked” here:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/comprehensive-network-analysis-shows-climategate-likely-to-be-a-leak.html


8 posted on 12/09/2009 2:15:54 PM PST by Ben Hecks ("...a soldier's pack is not as heavy a burden as a prisoner's chains." - Eisenhower)
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IMO the files would have been aggregated together by an internal whistle-blower, carried out on a pendrive and published from a public computer in Norwich shopping centre...

Is that how it was done, eh?

Job well done, mate...
Generations salute the "whistle-blower" (hopefully the Gore-ian mafia don't catch him ... but I suspect that they'd get distracted at the first donut shop in the Norwich shopping centre during their investigation ... they'll probably just continue to blame Russian 'hackers' ... or Sarah Palin)

9 posted on 12/09/2009 2:31:00 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Ben Hecks

The Prison Planet / Small Dead Animals link contains a plausible explanation until he gets to the “procmail” server method of gathering the emails.

He’s right about the file structure though, a point that I’ve made several times - the “mail files” are not really “email files”. They are “text” files that have been processed from “email files”. This article posits the theory that the leaker wrote a procmail script to cull the mail boxes of the five main “players.”

Possible. Not likely. The time frame is too long. They span 13 years.

Much more likely - they were archived via a mail archive system. Organizations that are subject to FOI requests generally keep such a system in order to maintain compliance with the law. These systems are easily searchable if you have access to the system.

Sort of points in the same direction. A leak not a hack. Except that the circle of people with access to the “archive” system is likely to be a much smaller, and raises additional questions about the makeup and intent of what I believe is a painstakingly researched “presentation” not a “hack” and not a random “leak”.


10 posted on 12/09/2009 2:43:45 PM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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Thanks for the additional insight into the Climategate E-mails. Unfortunately, most of the news accounts still use the terms “hacked” or “stolen”.


11 posted on 12/09/2009 7:43:52 PM PST by Ben Hecks ("...a soldier's pack is not as heavy a burden as a prisoner's chains." - Eisenhower)
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