Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Actor blames Catholic Church for lack of Golden Compass sequels
cna ^ | December 16, 2009

Posted on 12/16/2009 6:28:30 AM PST by NYer

London, England, Dec 16, 2009 / 02:18 am (CNA).- Actor Sam Elliot has blamed the Catholic Church for stopping sequels from being made to the Golden Compass movie based on the first book of Philip Pullman’s atheistic trilogy His Dark Materials. The film, starring Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig and Eva Green, grossed more than $380 million worldwide after its Christmas 2007 release, but took in only $85 million in the U.S. According to the Internet Movie Database, the film had a budget of $180 million.

The 65-year-old Elliot, who played a Texan “aeronaut” in the film, charged that a Catholic-led campaign against the movie stopped its sequels from being made.

“The Catholic Church happened to The Golden Compass, as far as I'm concerned,” Elliot remarked to the Evening Standard.

He said the movie did “incredible” at the box office but the Catholic Church “lambasted” the filmmakers and “scared off” New Line Cinema executives.

The movie itself is about a young heroine named Lyra who fights against an evil organization called the Magisterium, which many people see as a reference to the Catholic Church's body of teachings of the same name. The anti-religious message was reportedly toned down compared to the book.

Bill Donohue of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights had charged that the books and movie sold “atheism for kids.”

He told the Evening Standard that he was “delighted that the boycott worked.”

"I knew if we could hurt the box office receipts here, it might put the brakes on the next movie,” he added.

Donohue said he protested the movie because of its “deceitful attempt to introduce Christian children to the wonders of atheism in a backdoor fashion at Christmas time.”

“Everyone agrees the film version was not anti-Catholic, but that hardly resolves the issue. The fact is that each volume in the trilogy becomes increasingly anti-Catholic,” he continued.

Pullman, the author of the book on which the Golden Compass was based, said that the likelihood of the film trilogy being completed is decreasing.

He said that Catholics’ efforts against the film “must have played a part” in the trilogy being shelved, the Telegraph reports.

Pullman has denied his series is anti-Catholic, claiming it is a warning about what religion can do “when it gets its hands on the levers of power.”

According to CinemaBlend.com, the first book of the His Dark Materials trilogy is the most mild “by far” and the movie had most of its anti-religion references stripped.

“That kind of sanitization would have been impossible when adapting later books,” the movie website continued, noting that the series “quite literally” becomes a story about homosexual angels trying to kill God.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Office for Film & Broadcasting had initially published a positive review of the movie, which was later pulled.

Archbishop of Denver Charles J. Chaput had said the film had an “aggressively anti-religious, anti-Christian undercurrent” and an “absence of joy or any real laughter.” He criticized the promotion of “this cold, angry, anti-religious fable” as holiday fare and invited Catholics to voice their concerns to New Line Cinema.

Bishop of LaCrosse, Wisconsin Jerome Listecki sent a letter about the film to his priests, urging them to warn parents about the books’ attacks on the Christian faith.

"Instead of using fantasy to lead people to truth and to God, this trilogy tries to lead them away from God," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; cinema; goldencompass; hollywood
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-86 next last

1 posted on 12/16/2009 6:28:33 AM PST by NYer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


2 posted on 12/16/2009 6:29:04 AM PST by NYer ("One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone" - Benedict XVI)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Maybe there is no planned sequel because the Golden Compass sucked???


3 posted on 12/16/2009 6:31:45 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

My only recollection about this film is that the Demons were good. That’s all I needed to know I didn’t want to see it. The sequels can be made. Whether or not anyone would go see them is likely the holdup.


4 posted on 12/16/2009 6:32:01 AM PST by originalbuckeye
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
If the movie really made good money, they would make the follow-ons, simple as that. I believe the movie made on $55M in the US. Not enough to go forward.

It's a business. You want to appeal to a broad audience, and they failed. And what is their reaction? Let's bash the Catholic Church all over again!! Let's get some last licks in!!

5 posted on 12/16/2009 6:32:31 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Macbeth is ripe for shaking, and the powers above put on their instruments.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Thank you Catholic Church


6 posted on 12/16/2009 6:33:43 AM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Oh Sam, I am so disappointed. Always pegged you as a conservative and one who uses common sense. I’m crushed...


7 posted on 12/16/2009 6:34:00 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The 65-year-old Elliot, who played a Texan “aeronaut” in the film
The 65-year-old Elliot, who played the same boring character in every movie he's ever been in ...
8 posted on 12/16/2009 6:34:33 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Le Chien Rouge

Why bother with market economics when a gratuitous, anti-Catholic slam will do?


9 posted on 12/16/2009 6:34:55 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Once they've called you a racist, you've got nothing to lose.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The 65-year-old Elliot, who played a Texan “aeronaut” in the film, charged that a Catholic-led campaign against the movie stopped its sequels from being made.

You mean an organization which preaches the existence of God actually opposed an atheist propaganda ploy?

Imagine that?

The nerve!!!

10 posted on 12/16/2009 6:35:12 AM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

The marketplace speaks!


11 posted on 12/16/2009 6:35:15 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

yeah, blame the church, for a bad film.


12 posted on 12/16/2009 6:35:30 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rintense

Dang, I’d rather hear Sam read the phone book than most other actors do Shakespere... and now he comes out with this drivel.

I guess we’re just left with Tom Selleck for our westerns.


13 posted on 12/16/2009 6:36:17 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Pullman has denied his series is anti-Catholic, claiming it is a warning about what religion can do “when it gets its hands on the levers of power.”

Uh, like Islam for instance?

14 posted on 12/16/2009 6:36:18 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Hey don’t give the Catholics all the credit. Some of us Protestants were on board with boycotting this movie. :-)


15 posted on 12/16/2009 6:37:41 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

Exactly. Hollywood has never had any scruples when it comes to money, and least of all do they care what any Christian (as opposed to, say, Muslim) church thinks of it—all this since the end of the Production Code, at any rate. Before that, the opinion of the church did matter to a great extent.


16 posted on 12/16/2009 6:38:01 AM PST by mrsmel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: NYer

Imagine that. Catholics not wanting to see a movie that is anti-Catholic!

Sorry Sam, if we don’t buy in to your anti-Christian movies.


17 posted on 12/16/2009 6:38:07 AM PST by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tijeras_Slim
Always loved his voice, and he's always tripped my trigger in the looks department too. Isn't he also the new voice of Smokey the Bear?

Yeah, I know there was a huge campaign against the movie. But damn, blaming the Catholic Church for a piss poor movie?

18 posted on 12/16/2009 6:38:23 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I’ll bet Elliot has faith in Al Gore.


19 posted on 12/16/2009 6:39:30 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that the movie sucked....

I used to like Sam Elliot too...

20 posted on 12/16/2009 6:40:33 AM PST by NMEwithin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
I liked his work in Gettysburg as Gen. Buford. Maybe he was hoping for a sequel or two to fund his retirement.
21 posted on 12/16/2009 6:41:59 AM PST by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Boring, silly, and pedantic. Doesn't make for good sequel prospects.

The visual graphics and special effects were nice, but that was about all it had going for it.

22 posted on 12/16/2009 6:42:12 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rintense
Oh Sam, I am so disappointed. Always pegged you as a conservative and one who uses common sense. I’m crushed...

He's long gone from his best role ever as Sam Damon in "Once An Eagle". ABC needs to release that miniseries on DVD.

23 posted on 12/16/2009 6:42:35 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Sam, you're like the garnish on the side of a main course.

You had the best mustache in Tombstone

You added a wacky dash of humor to The Big Lebowski

You've been a reliable piece of scenery in many other Westerns

Stick to that and shut-up about politics!

24 posted on 12/16/2009 6:42:41 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

He’s sooooo brave and elequent and the Catholic Church is sooooo eviiiiiil by stating what was very obvious in the books.

Let’s see this actor make an anti-Muslim film and see how that turns out.


25 posted on 12/16/2009 6:43:39 AM PST by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rintense

Don’t know about the Smokey Bear thing, but it was a pretty bad movie.

I think the big ol’ mustache look works, but the early 80’s look (The Sacketts) was a bit too much.

Ah well, I guess it shouldn’t be that much of a surprise.


26 posted on 12/16/2009 6:44:45 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: NYer
but took in only $85 million in the U.S. According to the Internet Movie Database, the film had a budget of $180 million.

Of course that had nothing to do with the decision, right Sam?

27 posted on 12/16/2009 6:45:31 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rintense

Yeah I’m disappointed too. I’ve always enjoyed his movies.


28 posted on 12/16/2009 6:46:02 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy
A lot of Hollywood is gay. I'll bet a gay executive took a look at the domestic ticket sales and decided that a sequel probably is not worth making. Blame it on him or her.

Then we could say, "Homosexual opposition is to blame for not making Golden Compass sequels.

Never mind that economically, it did not make sense to make another movie. Blame it on the gays.

It is also the case that a lot of Hollywood is Jewish. Repeat the above exercise with 'gay' replaced by 'Jewish'.

Real nice, huh? And the left would do it in a heartbeat if they thought they could get away with it.

29 posted on 12/16/2009 6:46:29 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: oh8eleven
THANK YOU!!! He is G-D annoying - the same all the time. I even changed th channel when he was doing the beef commercials. Oh Sam, what do you have to say for your role in the film "Lifeguard", you know the one where you screw an underage girl? What say you to that, Sam?
30 posted on 12/16/2009 6:47:52 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Le Chien Rouge
I really, really like watching Sam Elliot act. I'd listen to him read the phone book.

That having been said, The Golden Compass sucked.

31 posted on 12/16/2009 6:48:34 AM PST by wbill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NYer
He is both a loser and an idiot. Only an idiot would expect Catholics to buy tickets to a Catholic-bashing movie. I am not surprised that post-Christian Europe turned out in droves to see it.

A shame, too, because I always enjoyed Elliot as a western actor.

32 posted on 12/16/2009 6:50:15 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
Actor Sam Elliot has blamed the Catholic Church for stopping sequels from being made to the Golden Compass movie based on the first book of Philip Pullman’s atheistic trilogy His Dark Materials.

Maybe Sam Elliot wants to blame God, but instead goes after the Catholic Church. Perhaps this blasphemous person has gotten a glimpse of his afterlife.

33 posted on 12/16/2009 6:50:47 AM PST by olezip
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

No sequel to a movie that wants to “Kill God in the minds of Children”?

LOL


34 posted on 12/16/2009 6:51:27 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Night Hides Not; rintense

I liked Once an Eagle but I also liked The Sacketts and Shadow Riders.


35 posted on 12/16/2009 6:51:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: NYer

I saw this movie on opening weekend, with about 10 other people in the whole theater. I was willing to let go of the anti-Catholic overtones because I really enjoy the steampunk or alternative history/universe genre. But this movie sucked. It was a bore and tedious. It is really hard to cheer for the “heroine” Lyra when she is a spolied brat who really was in need of a good spanking. The Magisterium was the worst villanous organization I ever seen. They were incompetent and shallow. I was thinking how is this organization suppose to conquer other universes when it cannot even get its act together in its own world.


36 posted on 12/16/2009 6:52:03 AM PST by C19fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer
“That kind of sanitization would have been impossible when adapting later books,” the movie website continued, noting that the series “quite literally” becomes a story about homosexual angels trying to kill God.

No wonder it did so well in the European market opposed to the US market.

37 posted on 12/16/2009 6:52:14 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NYer

If they are handing out credit, I will accept my small part with humility.


38 posted on 12/16/2009 6:52:46 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DJ MacWoW

Loved him in Tombstone and Road House.


39 posted on 12/16/2009 6:54:47 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: rintense
"Oh Sam, I am so disappointed."

I'm crushed to hear this crap from Sam. He is my absolute favorite actor and that voice makes me melt like butter... *sigh*. Another fantasy blown.

40 posted on 12/16/2009 6:54:56 AM PST by buschbaby (No longer silent ~ No longer polite ~ Fights the idiots with truth)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: C19fan

I just want to add that Golden Compass, I forget the real name, was the ultimate Dues Ex Machina. Everytime Lyra got into some trouble she would just whip it out and her problems were solved.


41 posted on 12/16/2009 6:55:06 AM PST by C19fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: buschbaby

I know, right?


42 posted on 12/16/2009 6:55:21 AM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: NYer
The film ... grossed more than $380 million worldwide after its Christmas 2007 release, but took in only $85 million in the U.S. According to the Internet Movie Database, the film had a budget of $180 million.

...He said the movie did “incredible” at the box office but the Catholic Church “lambasted” the filmmakers and “scared off” New Line Cinema executives.

The rule of thumb is that a film has to gross three times its production costs to break even once you pay for advertising, prints, distribution and the theater owners' cut. Three times $180M is $540M, which is a lot more than $380M. It was "incredible" at the box office in the sense of an incredible money losing stinkburger.

43 posted on 12/16/2009 6:55:37 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Gore is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse. He rides an icy horse bringing cold wherever he goes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: I cannot think of a name
You added a wacky dash of humor to The Big Lebowski

Most definitely. And that's saying something because The Big Lebowski is a THOROUGHLY wacky movie. It's one of the few movies that I'll watch in it's entirety several times a year.

44 posted on 12/16/2009 6:55:57 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: GOPsterinMA
I think someone screwed his head on crooked too...


45 posted on 12/16/2009 6:56:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: NYer

this sounds to me like the plot of the next best-selling Dan Brown book...maybe Sam is angling for a role in that one when it is made into a movie...


46 posted on 12/16/2009 6:56:45 AM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rintense

Didn’t see Tombstone but Roadhouse was hard to take. You like characters and they kill them. lol


47 posted on 12/16/2009 6:56:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: NYer

How about blaming the fact that the movie sucked for the lack of sequels.


48 posted on 12/16/2009 6:57:48 AM PST by VRWCmember
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: oh8eleven

I can’t see the pics...


49 posted on 12/16/2009 6:57:54 AM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: Da Coyote
Let’s see this actor make an anti-Muslim film and see how that turns out.

I keep waiting to see the big-screen adaptation of The Satanic Verses, but it looks like it will never be made. Fancy that...

50 posted on 12/16/2009 6:58:19 AM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-86 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson