Posted on 12/16/2009 11:28:23 AM PST by Steelfish
Sufis are regarded as heretics by other Muslims, but then, so were Black Muslims (Nation of Islam) until fairly recently.
“Orthodox” Islam has realized that it can used Sufism to gain legitimacy since Sufism seems to be attractive to wealthy Western intellectual seekers, such as Prince Charles, who can conveniently skip over the things in Islam that they don’t like and go out and whirl around in a circle until their brains liquify.
I have a friend like this, a sweet guy who is gay and would be stoned to death in an instant by real Muslims, who has gone off to Turkey to live in the town of a Sufi “saint.” He’s a sweet guy, but a real idiot. The crocodile will eat him, too.
"Kukiko Mitani, whose husband, Stephen Pomerantz, owned the building at the time, tried to sell it for years, at one time asking $18 million. But when the recession hit, she sold it in July to a real estate investment firm, Soho Properties, for $4.85 million in cash, records show. One of the investors was the Cordoba Initiative, an interfaith group founded by Imam Feisal. “ http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html?pagewanted=2&_r=2&ref=nyregion"
No, property rights are absolute, unless you want the government to dictate what a property owner can do with their property.
Worth repeating!
Hello, it's time to wake up America!
Ping..
Interesting. She still sold it really, really low, but they apparently paid in cash and maybe she needed the cash at that point. I wonder who else is part of “Soho Properties”?
And Muslims wonder why people don’t like Islam. What a joke. I believe Muslims intentionally want to desecrate anything their opponents deem sacred.
2. New York is filled with mosques of the Saudi, Sufi, or Bean Pie variety. Most NYers don't really care, including myself. There are more important things to worry about, like whether or not my state will go into receivership next year.
"To: livius; Cindy
I wouldn’t be surprised if Soros and Michael Ratner are involved with this Imam... they wanted to build the shrine to to the whore of political correctness at Ground Zero before:
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 : (9/11 ATTACKS— See GROUND ZERO “BLAME AMERICA FIRST PC MEMORIAL” & RATNER FAMILY {see CCR* [See SAMI AL ARIAN]}) And this is the same clan [RATNER FAMILY] who wants to build the ‘Blame America First Memorial Museum” at Ground Zero. 28 posted on 06/16/2005 3:59:24 PM PDT by Velveeta * CCR aka Centre for Constitutional Rights
2001 LATE : (MICHAEL RATNER LOOKING TO CAPITALIZE ON 9/11 AFTERMATH—see CCR {see SAMI AL ARIAN}) The fight to liberate Guantanamo prison As the wreckage of the Twin Towers was still smoldering, Michael Ratner began planning his attack on America’s post-9/11 defense strategy. Realizing that it would take major legal clout to seriously subvert the War on Terror, Ratner began taking steps to attract major U.S law firms to his cause. First, he adopted a high public profile against the Bush administration’s reaction to 9/11 by savaging every facet of its plan to protect the U.S. from future attack. Working the “civil liberties” angle for all its worth, Ratner raged at the Patriot Act, railed against profiling techniques designed to ferret out Islamic terrorists in our midst, and opposed invading Afghanistan to hunt down and capture Osama bin Laden and his Taliban henchmen. The mainstream press assisted Ratner by promoting him as a champion of civil rights while carefully hiding his lifelong radicalims from the American public (see below). -——— “The man behind the attack on Guantanamo,” (traitorous b*st*rd Michael Ratner) , By Rocco DiPippo, FrontPageMagazine.com, front page mag , June 16, 2005
123 posted on December 16, 2009 3:55:56 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)"
This may be funding from the Saudi’s whom seem to be behind most of the mosque construction across America these days.
Regardless we can’t allow the Muslims to continue there progress in the direction they intend, which is to take over the entire World with Islam.
This outrage of building, or expanding the existing mosque steps away from the site of the Islamic attack upon our Nation must be stopped.
45 Park Pl, sold on Jul 16, 2009
Sold on Jul 16, 2009 for $4,850,000
Seller(s)
Co-Executor, Kukiko Mitani
Co-Executor, Howard Waltman
Buyer(s)
45 Park Place Partners Llc
552 Broadway
Suite 6n
New York, NY, 10012 US
Very interesting. This information conflicts with the NY Times article that says Soho Properties/Cordoba Initiative was the buyer:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/nyregion/09mosque.html?_r=3&pagewanted=2
The plot thickens!
cultural jihad bump
"To: Steelfish; Cindy; Grampa Dave; Allegra; Miss Marple; Travis McGee It’s that #$%^ nazi-trained ^^&^% communist George Soros & his Aspen Institute morons... again. John S. Bennett From SourceWatch Jump to: navigation, search John S. Bennett
“Co-founder of the Cordoba Initiative. He is also Senior Program Advisor to the Garrison Institute, an institution dedicated to applying the wisdom of contemplative traditions to issues of civil society.
“Between 1991 and 1999, Mr. Bennett served four terms as mayor of Aspen, Colorado. In this role he worked to build affordable housing, control suburban sprawl, preserve the environment, support the arts & humanities, and create an innovative transportation system offering alternatives to the single occupant automobile. In doing so, he presided over a $40 million budget, which produced a surplus in every year of his administration.
“From 1999 to 2001, Mr. Bennett was Vice President of the Aspen Institute. In that role, he instigated a number of groundbreaking initiatives, including the 50th Anniversary Symposium, which convened a diverse group of Nobel Prize winners, heads of state, and other world leaders from the fields of business, religion, art and academia to discuss globalization and its effects on humanity. He also helped create an acclaimed education program, The Aspen Institute High School Great Ideas Seminar: The Good Life and the Good Society, which remains active and successful today.
“Before embarking on his career of public service, Mr. Bennett was a successful businessman, founding and operating a small chain of restaurants in Colorado, Texas and Mexico.” [1]
The Cordoba Initiative, “founded in 2002, is a multi-faith organization whose objective is to heal the relationship between the Islamic World and America. Working through civil dialogue, policy initiatives, education, and cultural programs, the Initiative focuses on Thought, Action and Outcomes.” [1]
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, Chair
John S. Bennett, Co-founder and Executive Director of the Cordoba Initiative
Courtney Erwin, Chief of Staff and Director of Programs at the Cordoba Initiativz
Josh Martin, Program Associate and Writing and Research Coordinator at the Cordoba Initiative and ASMA Society
-——— From SourceWatch
143 posted on December 16, 2009 4:35:50 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)"
Not a surprise that the mosque is nearby, since that area seems to be the location of some taxi depots. For a certain stretch of Church Street, there are more than a few cheap halal fast-food type restaurants.
This is pure BS. Thought, Action and Outcomes? What the hell were they thinking when they converted this building into a mosque/prayer center, temporary or not? Certainly not anything about "healing the relationship". Outcomes? Duh, what did they expect, planting a mosque at Ground Zero? They have no intention of healing anything. This is about domination and submission: "Education" and "Cultural Programs".
Ditto;bump.
All muzzies are evil insane murderous perverted degenerate bastards, from the President of the United States to the muzzie pope, who is currently Osama Bin Laden.
(The Plot thickens!) Yes indeed-ee!
Well afterall, they do have their hijacking murderers blood there. Then again maybe the blood is melted into the ship and is sailing the ocean with infidels.
SOBs
Is it going to be named the BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA MOSQUE?
They are crazy to draw attention to themselves like this.
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