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To: revtown
There is a need for storage. The grid’s power needs are not consistent.

A windfarm in TX or OK makes power when it can. Sometimes the power is negatively priced, but still produced because the gov’t subsidies make it profitable to make electricity nobody needs.

Wind power is usually given a priority on the Grid. If the wind is blowing some other source doesn't get on. Wind penetration is not so great that it can supply all the power on any grid where it is connected so your statement doesn't make sense to me. There is never a time when all the windturbines in Texas could supply all of the power being used by Dallas.

45 posted on 12/16/2009 1:26:55 PM PST by DungeonMaster (camel, eye of a needle; rich man, heaven)
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To: DungeonMaster; revtown; All

Nothing new here; Oil/gas burning electricity generating infrastructure needs are still there and in a best world underutilized. Underutilized implies higher rate structure.
So wind power means higher rates being charged by the traditional suppliers of electricity. No Win!


46 posted on 12/16/2009 1:34:18 PM PST by Sporaticus
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To: DungeonMaster

“Wind power is usually given a priority on the Grid. If the wind is blowing some other source doesn’t get on.”

Out here in Washington state this year some (new?) wind farm was really cranking it out. The power company had to cut back on it’s hydroelectric output. But the reservoir was filled to the max so they had to let a bunch of water out through the spillway in a hurry. It wiped out a bunch of salmon nesting habitat.

I don’t recall if it was a problem with the engineering of the system (no “cut-off switch” or whatever from the wind farm), or if it was a legal/political thing - but the power company had to take the wind power. They have changed whatever it was so that in some cases they don’t have to now.


49 posted on 12/16/2009 1:47:06 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: DungeonMaster

It’s a transmission issue. You’d think this could get fixed by more power lines. But NIMBY stops them.

http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2008/09/curtailment-negative-prices-symptomatic-of-inadequate-transmission-53616


61 posted on 12/16/2009 6:44:47 PM PST by revtown
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