Posted on 12/16/2009 1:07:52 PM PST by reaganrevolutionin2010
A collective gasp was heard when computer enhanced photographs depicting numerous wind turbine generators were shown in Lake Michigan off Pentwater harbor and Little Point Sable at informational meeting in Scottville Tuesday night.
The photos were included as part of the public presentation before a full house at West Shore Community College by wind farm developer Scandia Wind LLC.
“It’s (Lake Michigan) more beautiful without them. Even I recognize that,” said Harald Dirdal, a project manager with Havgul Clean Energy of Norway.
Scandia Wind LLC is exploring the possibility of constructing an estimated $3 billion, 1,000 megawatt wind farm in Lake Michigan over a 100 square mile area from the Ludington Pumped Storage facility to Silver Lake.
(Excerpt) Read more at oceanaheraldjournal.com ...
Having spent a great deal of professionsl time at LPS, Pentwater, Ludington and the entire west coast, I’m all for the spinners being put in!
I would bet that the ones most aghast at the prospect voted for Opossum.
Just like California. While I think windmills are not economical, this particular opposition to them shows what I call “California Thinking.” It can be summed up by the attitude of:
“We want electricity, but we don’t want anything that actually generates electricity anywhere near us. We expect that infinite quantities of electricity will be made in ‘some other place’ without any harm to any living thing and will be transported at no cost to our electric outlets.”
Why can’t they just bury them underground like electric cables?
Hell, put them all in Washington, D.C.
There's enough wind there to power the world!
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf02.html
Taking into account all of the costs (startup, decommission, fuel, etc.)
Natural Gas is ....... 3.4 - 4.5 cents/kW-hour
Nuclear is ..............4.0 - 5.5 cents/kW-hour
Offshore Wind is......6.0 - 15. cents/kW-hour
The first two are assumed to run at 8,000 hours per year.
Wind power at 2200 hours per year.
Video here: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Mtg-set-to-talk-wind-turbines-in-lake
In 2002, the world’s largest offshore wind farm was built off the Danish west coast into the North Sea.It was used for illustration in an article discussing the wind farm planned for Lake Michigan.
And the fact that they provide virtually zero benefit just compounds the stupidity of the decision, no? http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/04/08/wind-power-is-a-complete-disaster.aspx
Well actually that’s the thinking of every state, not just CA. The people in CA want electricity by any means, wind, solar, coal etc. but the minority special interest groups have our elected officials bent over the money barrel and control everything.
Greenies live in gentrified urban spaces, shower infrequently and hate cars, houses, suburbs and open spaces. Don’t let them ruin everyone’s lives.
Other than that, what's to lose?
The general idea is: put the turbines “out there” (where the conservatives live), and send the power “in here” (cities, where the liberals live)....
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There is no evidence that industrial wind power is likely to have a significant impact on carbon emissions. The European experience is instructive. Denmark, the world’s most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power’s unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone). Flemming Nissen, the head of development at West Danish generating company ELSAM (one of Denmark’s largest energy utilities) tells us that “wind turbines do not reduce carbon dioxide emissions.” The German experience is no different. Der Spiegel reports that “Germany’s CO2 emissions haven’t been reduced by even a single gram,” and additional coal- and gas-fired plants have been constructed to ensure reliable delivery. Indeed, recent academic research shows that wind power may actually increase greenhouse gas emissions in some cases, depending on the carbon-intensity of back-up generation required because of its intermittent character. On the negative side of the environmental ledger are adverse impacts of industrial wind turbines on birdlife and other forms of wildlife, farm animals, wetlands and viewsheds. Industrial wind power is not a viable economic alternative to other energy conservation options. Again, the Danish experience is instructive. Its electricity generation costs are the highest in Europe (15¢/kwh compared to Ontario’s current rate of about 6¢). Niels Gram of the Danish Federation of Industries says, “windmills are a mistake and economically make no sense.” Aase Madsen , the Chair of Energy Policy in the Danish Parliament, calls it “a terribly expensive disaster.”Wind power is a complete disaster (Denmark relevant)
It always amazes me how libs, who live in a urban concrete jungle the furthest they could from nature, can tell the rest of us who decide to live closer to God how to live.
Arrogance beyond imagination.
To top it off liberals in NY and London frequently poke each other in the ribs and joke about how far removed they are from anything but buildings, asphalt and concrete. They treat parks as if grass and trees are alien species.
I’m in favor of starting near the Navy Pier and giving those living along Lake Shore drive a good view.
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