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Good God. Why don't we just send the latest US weapons to the Taliban too.

Don't these idiots understand that these terrorists float back and forth between organizations.

They could be PA today, Fatah tomorrow, Al Queda next week and Taliban by Christmas day!

Interesting note. This Lt. General has been on active duty since 1970 and has NO combat tours. He is a member of the Counsel on Foreign Relations, but has NO medals and awards from combat, not even a Bronze Star!

He has the Defense Distinguished Service Medal with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters, Army Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit with 1 Oak Leaf Cluster, Meritorious Service Medal, Army Commendation Medal, Basic Parachutist Badge, Ranger Tab Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge, Army Staff Identification Badge,

Other than Jump School and Ranger School, these are ALL "you were a good staff weenie" awards.

We are training Fatah to kill our best friends in the Middle East. How far we have fallen, in so many ways.

1 posted on 12/18/2009 8:23:32 PM PST by MindBender26
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Once again we see as US General that is an ignorant joke.


44 posted on 12/18/2009 9:55:52 PM PST by Islaminaction
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I read recently that applications for all military academies are way up. Not a surprise in this economy, but apps for the Naval Academy are up something like 40%. Why the sudden surge in interest? I just have a sick feeling these might be Americorps sheeple (or comparable) that have been encouraged to infiltrate. Very Scary thought.


46 posted on 12/18/2009 10:00:24 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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Obama’s March 6, 2007 interview with Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, entitled, “Obama: Man of the World,” has never received the publicity it deserves. In it, Obama talks about being a “street kid” in Jakarta, about going to a Muslim elementary school: things he writes about in his autobiographical “Dreams From My Father.” In any case, in this interview Obama chants the opening lines of the Adhan, the Muslim “Call to Prayer” in Arabic, with what Kristof says is a first class accent and then, Obama goes on to volunteer that this “Call” is “One of the Prettiest Sounds On Earth At Sunset.” Here is what this “Call to Prayer” Says: “Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme! I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that there is no god but Allah I witness that Muhammad is his prophet… “ This opening section of the Adhan incorporates the Shahada, the Muslim confession of faith, and many Muslim scholars would say that if a person recites these lines, a person thereby becomes, for all time, a Muslim: surely something Obama knows. In fact, according to Muslims, it doesn’t matter if you recite the Shahada out of heartfelt conviction, or with a gun to your head, the effect is the same, the deed is done; remember those newsmen captured in Iraq and made to recite the Shahada as they knelt with guns to their heads (Hot Air » Blog Archive » Centanni, Wiig freed (Update: Conversion video added) (Update: A Gilad Shalit connection?))? For the Muslim world this recitation—which might as well be, and is, the deepest code for most of us “unbelievers” in the West--may be enough to tell them exactly who and what Obama is and where he stands. Obama is not supposed to know this stuff, Obama, according to his defenders, is not supposed to have gone to any Muslim school, much less to have received sufficient training to recite the Adhan in a perfect Arabic accent and, the ease and facility with which Obama chanted the Adhan brings up many questions about just how much he does know about Islam and how thoroughly and for how long he was trained as a Muslim. His fondness for the “Call,” heard, it would seem, for just a few years when he was 8 or 9, brings up even more questions.
62 posted on 12/18/2009 10:22:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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He has to please his few favored constituents: the free traitors in chumming it up with their trading partners, avoiding wars in order to keep freight fuel prices down, and eventually to destroy our USA for them. It’s the political way of our superiors and has been increasingly so for over three decades.


64 posted on 12/18/2009 10:29:23 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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unfreakin real- what the hell has become of htis nation?


66 posted on 12/18/2009 11:05:01 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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This didn’t just start this year either did it. That’s what bothers me.


67 posted on 12/18/2009 11:06:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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Under Pres_ _ent Obama, America has chosen allah over G d.

'American training will be utilized to kill Jews'
”NORTHERN WEST BANK –security forces who recently received training
at U.S.-run bases as part of a stated effort to reform the PA's militias
“All the trainings we received from Dayton and company will not affect our loyalty to
our people and the resistance," said the former Brigades leader.
The others present concurred.
The gunman was referring to Keith Dayton, the U.S. security coordinator to the
Palestinian territories who has been overseeing the training of Palestinian militias.
Since the late 1990s, the U.S. has run training bases for PA militias. The U.S. also has
provided hundreds of millions of dollars in financial aid and weapons to build up the PA militias.
"… What we received from Dayton, we will use when the day comes for a confrontation."
"I do not think that the operations of the Palestinian resistance would have been so
successful and would have killed more than 1,000 Israelis since 2000 and defeated the
Israelis in Gaza without these [American] trainings," said Yousuf.

Yousuf received U.S. training in Jericho in 1999 as a member of the Preventative
Security Services. He is a Brigades chief in Ramallah, where he is accused of
participating in anti-Israel terrorism, including recent shootings, attacks against Israeli
forces operating in the city and a shooting attack in northern Samaria in December 2000
that killed Benyamin Kahane, leader of the ultranationalist Kahane Chai organization.
… Yousuf said his American training sessions were instrumental in killing Jews:
"All the methods and techniques that we studied in these trainings, we applied them against the Israelis," he said.
"We sniped at Israeli settlers and soldiers. We broke into settlements and Israeli army
bases and posts. We collected information on the movements of soldiers and settlers. We
collected information about the best timing to infiltrate our bombers inside Israel. We
used weapons and we produced explosives, and of course the trainings we received from
the Americans and the Europeans were a great help to the resistance."

"I myself received American trainings in Jericho. Together with my Preventative
comrades, I received trainings in intelligence methods and military trainings," he said. "In
the intelligence part, we learned collection of information regarding suspected persons,
how to follow suspected guys, how to infiltrate organizations and penetrate cells of
groups that we were working on and how to prevent attacks and to steal in places.

"On the military level, we received trainings on the use of weapons, all kind of weapons
and explosives," Yousuf said. "We received sniping trainings, work of special units
especially as part of what they call the fight against terror. We learned how to put siege,
how to break into places where our enemies closed themselves in, how to oppress protest
movements, demonstrations and other activities of opposition.
"I'm just telling you the truth," he said. "We applied against Israel all that we learned
from the Americans."


Obama's Official Web Site Equates Israel to Nazi Germany
Organizing for America Web site: "The majority of the Israeli policies are the exact
copies of the Nazi policies"
Barack Obama's official Web site, over which Barack Obama's organization exercises
editorial control, carries an entry that equates Israelis to Nazis and their treatment of
Palestinians to the Holocaust. Emily and her fellow moderators at Obama for America
apparently did not consider an entry that compares Israeli Jews to Nazis as "disrespectful
to our other users and detract from a welcoming community where all people can engage
in positive discourse." Here is the material that Obama for America approved for posting."


“Barack Obama’s Anti-Semitic Website
The site was and is closely policed. The site moderators remove material that they
consider to be “disrespectful to our other users” and to “detract from a welcoming
community where all people can engage in positive discourse.” What they find
disrespectful can be interesting: once during the campaign a conservative blogger, Bill
Levinson, posted a blog on Obama’s website consisting entirely of a series of quotations
from Obama’s own book, Dreams of my Father. Obama’s team did not approve of their
standard-bearer’s words, and so Levinson’s blog and account were deleted from the
Obama site in just under 36 hours. That’s right, Barack Obama’s website banned
Obama’s own words. But the most disgusting anti-semitic ravings remained on the site,
along with blogs advocating anarchy and the overthrow of the United States Congress."


“Obama using 'blood libel' report to pressure Jewish state
TEL AVIV – Senior Palestinian Authority officials told WND the Obama administration
offered their group guarantees that the U.S. would pressure Israel over a Palestinian state
in exchange for the PA's withdrawal of support for immediate U.N. action over an
investigation claiming Israel committed war crimes.

The PA officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, told WND the guarantees include
pressing Israel to agree to a two-year timetable to negotiate a Palestinian state set along
the pre-1967 lines – meaning a state in the Gaza Strip, West Bank and eastern sections of
Jerusalem.

The officials said the Obama administration hopes to set the timetable publicly before
March. They said Obama's Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, presented the timetable to
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in meetings here the past few days.

The PA officials said Mitchell specifically told the Palestinians the Obama administration
will push for a state including much of eastern Jerusalem.
"Mitchell told us not to be worried about what happened in Jabel Mukabar. It was just a
ceremony and won't create any facts on the ground," one senior PA official told WND.”


“At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech.
At the UN, the Obama administration backs limits on free speech.
This article, by Anne Bayefsky, originally appeared in The Weekly Standard.
The Obama administration has marked its first foray into the UN human rights
establishment by backing calls for limits on freedom of expression. The newly-minted American policy was rolled out at the latest session of the UN Human Rights
Council, which ended in Geneva on Friday. American diplomats were there for the first time as full Council members and intent on making friends.
President Obama chose to join the Council despite the fact that the Organization of the
Islamic Conference holds the balance of power and human rights abusers are among its
lead actors, including China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia. Islamic states quickly interpreted
the president's penchant for "engagement" as meaning fundamental rights were now up
for grabs. Few would have predicted, however, that the shift would begin with America's
most treasured freedom."

74 posted on 12/19/2009 4:11:50 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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Seems to me your source is without agenda. lol
76 posted on 12/19/2009 5:01:00 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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I do believe a program simular if not the same was begun under Bill Clinton - this may just be a continuation, not a new program.


79 posted on 12/19/2009 5:46:44 AM PST by PIF
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quoting Rep. Mark Steven Kirk (R-Ill.) as telling Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton at a House hearing last week that it was akin to agreeing to support a government that "only has a few Nazis in it."

Good Lord, what have the liberals done to this country and now to Israel voting in Obama?!?

80 posted on 12/19/2009 6:41:48 AM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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the author jumped o ff a cliff rather than to a correct conclusion

The force is to combat hamas, not the IDF


81 posted on 12/19/2009 6:45:01 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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Abbas rejects Israel as Jewish state

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPsOe9yRqTU


82 posted on 12/19/2009 7:08:15 AM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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I saw this quote online from a poster.

http://www.masjidtucson.org/quran/noframes/ch5.html

Quran

God Gives the Holy Land to Israel

[5:21] “O my people, enter the holy land that GOD has decreed for you, and do not rebel, lest you become losers.”

[5:22] They said, “O Moses, there are powerful people in it, and we will not enter it, unless they get out of it. If they get out, we are entering.”

[5:23] Two men who were reverent and blessed by GOD said, “Just enter the gate. If you just enter it, you will surely prevail. You must trust in GOD, if you are believers.”


83 posted on 12/19/2009 7:13:29 AM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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Who sent him there???


84 posted on 12/19/2009 7:16:38 AM PST by danamco
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“We are training Fatah to kill...”

Not for the 1st time in history to remind you.
AQ collected their first wave from the reminds of the guys the U.S. and several muslim states (S.A., Egypt, Pakistan etc) funded with money and weapons to fight the soviet invasors in afghanistan.
And after this nearsighted foreign policy the ghost refused to go back into the bottle.

Sad to hear some in the foreign office didnt read the “Learn from the past” quote


88 posted on 12/19/2009 7:25:07 AM PST by Kampfschwimmer
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Fatah these days is closely cooperating with Israel. Anyway Israelis would go crazy over this If that was against their interests. I wouldn't be surprised If the whole thing was done on their request as there obviously would be huge problems on both sides If the wanted to do that by themselves.

Some posts in this thread make me think that American jokes could be true...

96 posted on 12/19/2009 7:57:50 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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Progressive liberalism is a mental disorder, unfortunately too many voters suffer from this affliction and we get the government we deserve..


97 posted on 12/19/2009 8:00:31 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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what a load of bull!!!!!!!!!!!!!


109 posted on 12/19/2009 4:47:22 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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120 posted on 12/31/2009 6:27:18 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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OMG


122 posted on 12/31/2009 9:10:02 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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