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Will Sovereign Debt Defaults Bring the End of Socialism?
kitco ^ | Dec 21 2009 9:40AM | by James Turk

Posted on 12/22/2009 4:51:22 AM PST by dennisw

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1 posted on 12/22/2009 4:51:22 AM PST by dennisw
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Obama style government is socialism and feeds off the productive private sector that actually does useful work. In nature parasites are careful not to kill their host or kill it too soon. Socialism is different and will kill the capitalists first

Or will socialist governments default first and go bankrupt first same as the USSR did in 1991?


2 posted on 12/22/2009 4:54:53 AM PST by dennisw
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Heck, here in the Obama US, full-bore socialism is on the road to becoming tres chic.


3 posted on 12/22/2009 4:55:40 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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Just when the rest of the world fails due to socialism, Barack Hussein Obama will ride in on his WHITE HORSE and save them all with massive give-aways.

Then, when all industrialized nations fail, he’ll work with a new group of global leaders to establish GLOBAL SOCIALISM.

You see, it isn’t that SOCIALISM has failed. It has not yet succeeded because there are those WHO STILL RESIST IT.

Once you do away with ALL RESISTANCE and TRUST them with TOTAL POWER...then EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE!!!

Trust them. That’s what they demand.


4 posted on 12/22/2009 4:55:47 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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“Or will socialist governments default first and go bankrupt first same as the USSR did in 1991?”

I vote for this one.


5 posted on 12/22/2009 5:01:58 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I think US should default on its debt. Its the quickest way to end socialism. When the politicians realize theres no one around in lend to them, they’ll will have to increase taxes or decrease their promises


6 posted on 12/22/2009 5:02:55 AM PST by 4rcane
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“Or will socialist governments default first and go bankrupt first same as the USSR did in 1991?”

When that happens, I’m immediately decalring myself ‘Leader of Wisconsinstan’ and I’m kicking all the LibTards OUT Of my fine state!

It would be incredibly painful, unlike anything any of us have ever lived through, but terrific if we could get back all the rights our individuals States have lost at the hands of the Feds. Wisconsin would be among the first to default. We’re currently 5 BILLION in the hole!! :)


7 posted on 12/22/2009 5:02:55 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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It is not the votes that determine the government but who counts the votes. Radical Democrats are very good vote counters. Bankruptcy will be blamed on someone like Geo W Bush. The solution will be dissolution, dissolution of the US Military. Sorry, can’t cut welfare, medical care, social security, government workers. There is nowhere left to cut and no more growth in wealth once Cap & Trade starts.


8 posted on 12/22/2009 5:04:42 AM PST by ricks_place
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Ppl buying into government bonds are just as guilty as pushing socialism. It’s what keeps it going. They should all go bankrupt


9 posted on 12/22/2009 5:04:48 AM PST by 4rcane
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Sovereign debt could lead to the death of constitutional republics, and an extension of socialism as governments take ever more property to pay their debts.


10 posted on 12/22/2009 5:05:50 AM PST by Daveinyork
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I think US should default on its debt. Its the quickest way to end socialism. When the politicians realize theres no one around in lend to them, they’ll will have to increase taxes or decrease their promises

I'd love to see some counties and States lead the way by default and bankruptcy. The only way outrageous pensions and bennies can be renegotiated
If California went bankrupt they should kill the Air Resources Board first. California has millions of useless lard-butt employeees

11 posted on 12/22/2009 5:07:38 AM PST by dennisw
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ppl who have lots of money in pensions, should be smart enough not to put it into government bonds. If they’re not, they deserve the lost


12 posted on 12/22/2009 5:10:30 AM PST by 4rcane
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Ppl buying into government bonds are just as guilty as pushing socialism. It’s what keeps it going. They should all go bankrupt

The short version is Federal borrowing under 0bama is crowding out private borrowing
The commies in the Federal government are starving out the private sector intentionally.
More dough for the apparatchiks hare brain schemes (like 0bama-care) and less for the private sector producers

13 posted on 12/22/2009 5:11:06 AM PST by dennisw
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They can not be forced in to actual bankruptcy as long as they have the power to print Fiat Currency. Never forget that to a Socialist the answer to the failure of Socialism...More Socialism.


14 posted on 12/22/2009 5:11:08 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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"as countries around the globe run out of money and confront overwhelming debts that cannot be repaid "

Doesn't this kind of thing lead to WAR?

15 posted on 12/22/2009 5:15:40 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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One of thje first steps toward communism is the collectivization of wealth. Once all capital belongs to the state, it can disburse it as it sees fit.

There is certainly adequate wealth in the US to honor our debt. However, there is far too little in GOVERNMENT hands to do so.

The solution: nationalize assets. Like auto manufacturers, banks, health insurance ...


16 posted on 12/22/2009 5:18:53 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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Ping!


17 posted on 12/22/2009 5:19:21 AM PST by JDoutrider
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“If California went bankrupt they should kill the Air Resources Board first. California has millions of useless lard-butt employeees”

Speaking of California, 5 weeks ago a friend requested a copy of her birth certificate from California. She just received a post card response that said that their normal delivery time from receipt of request to delivery is 18 weeks.


18 posted on 12/22/2009 5:22:15 AM PST by mouske
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Socialism ushers in the end of human progress. I guess we have advanced far enough. Stagnation time.


19 posted on 12/22/2009 5:24:14 AM PST by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org/)
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Doesn't this kind of thing lead to WAR?

That was kind of my take on it, but then wars are expensive. How do you pay for them if you can't borrow money? That's the tangle I get into when I look at that issue.

20 posted on 12/22/2009 5:35:28 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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